Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Seriously, it's amazing that no one can support the duo without A.) Focusing on Wolvie's and Thor's tussle and pretending it's like the be-all and end-all of Thor's fighting prowess ever. Or B.) Throwing random Logan feats out there and saying "Well, Gorgon and OR are as fast/faster than he is, so they win".Let OR and Gorgon stand on their own feet without using Logan's feats to support them.
I find that amusing because when I used Gorgon's fight against Phobos as a basis for how well he would do against Ares, plus mentioned a speed feat far superior to anything the two here have shown.....
The off panel power ups were some of the best Wolverine math I've seen Skrank do.
Try doing the same thing using Thor's fights against Surfer, Bill etc. as evidence. They wouldn't count because or something.
He actually thinks Thor's peak human at best. Lunacy.
Lawlz.
I'll be the first one to admit that Thor is not a speed heavy character, never has been, but his history has shown us if nothing else, his speed is plot dependent. Thor can without a doubt tag guys like Gorgon or Omega Red if he has to. If he can become engaged in combat with an enemy at trans light speeds, he can operate at their level.
Bill was also recently doing that in his encounter with Surfer. The logic that Skrank and co. are using? I think I'm going to start applying it. Would make things so much easier.
Points to Thor hitting an opponent like Surfer. Points to Surfer's speed feats. /thread
Originally posted by jinzin
Right, which is why guys like Thing have knocked Thor about eh?
baka Guys like Thing? Mention every instance and I'll point out the context you're leaving out.
^The best Ares has ever done is when Thor beat the utter crap out of him -and Pluto- before Blood and Thunder.
Originally posted by carver9
So with this statement, you admit Hulk has enough super speed to keep up with people like Supes and Glads in a forum fight?
You can argue whatever you want, I don't care. The main difference between Hulk and Thor is that we've seen entities willing to use their super speed to gain an advantage, only for Thor to still be able to tag them. Even in the JLA/Avengers fight, Superman started off the fight by dodging Thor's initial hit, but was still struck later on.
Originally posted by jinzin
Red has Carbonadium tenticals with superstrength, there's not one single reason why they can't stab Thor.
Except Thor's durability.
Originally posted by jinzin
Gorgon's sporting an adamantium sword for this fight, again no reason he can't stab Thor.
Again, except Thor's durability. I can accept someone arguing that Thor will get superficial damage, but I see people claiming he'd toss the sword through Thor's head or cut him to pieces. Shit like that won't fly with me.
His not a Death God level entity wielding the Twilight Sword.
Originally posted by jinzin
I took crap from you people for YEARS for telling you that Wolverine could cut Thor, I brought up example after example of him being cut, shot, stabbed, and you wanted to ignore it, and criticizem me instead because some of them were "ambiguous" or "because of magic" even though that wasn't specifically stated.
Do you want a hug or something? How is any of this relevant to our discussion?
Originally posted by jinzin
We had other examples that pertained to Thor and Wolverine specifically but it was "non canon" and also ignored.
You tried using non cannon shit and you're surprised why you were ignored?
Originally posted by jinzin
Now we have canon material which states and shows that Thor can be cut by Wolverine and that after 2/3 glancing swipes that he doesn't think his durability can hold out for much longer, and you STILL want us to ignore it?
I'm not ignoring anything. That's the job of the Wolverine brigade. I acknowledge what happened. I am however pointing out that the fight was hardly an indication of Thor's capabilities or limits.
Lmao at bringing up the bullet incident. This shit is really hilarious. If I posted examples of Wolverine getting knocked the f*ck out, I'd get a wall of bullshit trying to spin or ignore it and here you are, using perhaps Thor's lowest showings as a basis.
The double standards are hilarious.
2/3 glancing swipes? It seems like whenever Wolverine doesn't cut someone to pieces it's a glancing swipe or something. What do you call Wolverine leaping from the trees and stabbing Thor in his back?
And that's not what Thor said. He said that the thickness of his Asgardian skin prevent any real damage to be done or some such but admitted that the advantage wouldn't last forever.
Originally posted by jinzin
Dude, grow the f*ck up, even if you don't agree with my opinion on the fight that's no reason to belittle me and my knowledge of the character.
Even if all I knew about Thor was what I've seen on KMC it would be enough to make a semi-informed decision, I've kept up with a majority of Thor's career for years now.
I'm sorry. You want another hug bud?
Originally posted by jinzin
I don't think Thor can tank being stabbed several times by people trying to kill him and effectively fight thereafter, I don't think his durability can just no sell Adamantium weaponry and I have plenty of reasons for thinking either of those two assertions a wealth of which COME FROM THOR COMIC BOOKS.
It doesn't matter what you think. You know very little apparently. I think his durability can. Not on average necessarily, but it's without a doubt within his capabilities if the situation arises. Thor wouldn't even be able to tank a punch from the Destroyer's largely spiked knuckles if he could be sliced to pieces like it's been claimed.
😂 Oh really? I know exactly what scenes you're going to reference. A few Silver Age showings possibly, the scene with the holy knight, and not much, if anything, besides that.
Originally posted by jinzin
Good lord, I realize we're dealing with one of your faves here, but you think given our relationship on the boards you would be at least a LITTLE more decent with your peers before putting your ass-hat on. 😐
Ass hat on? Never heard that one before. Anyways, if you think I'm being unfriendly, don't reply to my posts. No skin off my back.
Thor can tank their attacks, Thor can tag them, and Thor can knock them the hell out in moments. This isn't opinion. This is me telling you Thor's capabilities.
Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm done with you until you start actually posting feats for Gorgon and OR.Until then, Thor wins the majority
Lol based on what? show us any proof showing that thor can handle those 2 in tearms of speed, i presented feats of gorgon being so fast wolverine said no one can be that fast and i stated a feat where gorgon cuts a speedster while she is using her powers now you show me thor reacting or fighting any where near as fast as that so until you show me thor being at least equal to those fighting standards i can say that gorgon alone will kill thor 10/10 every single time by blitzing and cutting his throat and hands now you prove i am wrong
Originally posted by ringtones
Lol based on what? show us any proof showing that thor can handle those 2 in tearms of speed, i presented feats of gorgon being so fast wolverine said no one can be that fast and i stated a feat where gorgon cuts a speedster while she is using her powers now you show me thor reacting or fighting any where near as fast as that so until you show me thor being at least equal to those fighting standards i can say that gorgon alone will kill thor 10/10 every single time by blitzing and cutting his throat and hands now you prove i am wrong
Based on Thor's speed, strength, skill, durability and combat feats.
So, Until and unless you can prove othewise. IMO Thor wins the majority.
