Originally posted by Silent Master
Comics are inconsistent so implications aren't good enough.
so if comics is inconsistent like you state why should we believe the few scans that show thor having any speed? then lets look at the majority... majority of the time he gets beat up by the likes of hercules and hulk and he was even slower than hercules in a fight and got owned so lets go by that... team FTW
Originally posted by Silent Master
Do you believe all statements that characters make?
its different... when spider-man is stating it he might think he can break wolverines neck thats his own opinion he didnt try to do it so its only his opinion, but when wolverine himself admiting that gorgon is too fast or thor after a fight admits wolverine is faster ... then we have a case because there is an actual base to those statements comming after a fight
Originally posted by ringtonesWolverine said that not Spider-man.
its different... when spider-man is stating it he might think he can break wolverines neck thats his own opinion he didnt try to do it so its only his opinion, but when wolverine himself admiting that gorgon is too fast or thor after a fight admits wolverine is faster ... then we have a case because there is an actual base to those statements comming after a fight
Originally posted by ringtones
so if comics is inconsistent like you state why should we believe the few scans that show thor having any speed? then lets look at the majority... majority of the time he gets beat up by the likes of hercules and hulk and he was even slower than hercules in a fight and got owned so lets go by that... team FTW
You don't understand the difference between shown and implied, do you?
[QUOTE=13261902]Originally posted by Silent Master
You don't understand the difference between shown and implied, do you? [/QUOTE
you are talking about comics being inconsistent and therefor even when a proof is presented you are using that card , then it can work both ways think about what you are saying
Originally posted by ringtones
spider-man said that he could break wolverines neck it doesnt mean he could
Wolverine said that Spider-man could break his(Logan's) neck.
Originally posted by ringtones
you are talking about comics being inconsistent and therefor even when a proof is presented you are using that card , then it can work both ways think about what you are saying
I'm saying that comics are inconsistent, so we go by verifiable feats, rather than opinion based statements.
Originally posted by ringtones
how is wolverine being owned by gorgon and stating no one can be that fast is an opinion? please stop making fun of yourself
You're applying Wolverine's high-end feats to that showing in order to make Gorgon look impressive, when you have zero proof that Wolverine was actually operating at his high-end levels.
It would be like Colossus fans applying Gladiator's high-ends feats to his fight with Colossus and then claiming that Colossus can 3 shot a planet and has superspeed.
Originally posted by Silent Master
You're applying Wolverine's high-end feats to that showing in order to make Gorgon look impressive, when you have zero proof that Wolverine was actually operating at his high-end levels.It would be like Colossus fans applying Gladiator's high-ends feats to his fight with Colossus and then claiming that Colossus can 3 shot a planet and has superspeed.
dude... wolverine was down and stated no one can be that fast which already tell us that gorgon was too good for wolverine to even believe so that does mean that gorgon supress wolverine highest abilities to the point wolverine cant believe it again you fail
Originally posted by Silent Master
You're applying Wolverine's high-end feats to that showing in order to make Gorgon look impressive, when you have zero proof that Wolverine was actually operating at his high-end levels.It would be like Colossus fans applying Gladiator's high-ends feats to his fight with Colossus and then claiming that Colossus can 3 shot a planet and has superspeed.
Colossus and Gladiator have no relation to one another, and Gladiator is superior to Colossus across the board, so your comparison fails in every conceivable what. What it would be like is Venom fans citing Spider-man's feats and then clarifying that Venom is superior to Spider-man in every way and therefor is capable of superior feats of speed and strength... which is true... just like the Gorgon / Wolverine comparision.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Colossus and Gladiator have no relation to one another, and Gladiator is superior to Colossus across the board, so your comparison fails in every conceivable what. What it [b]would be like is Venom fans citing Spider-man's feats and then clarifying that Venom is superior to Spider-man in every way and therefor is capable of superior feats of speed and strength... which is true... just like the Gorgon / Wolverine comparision. [/B]
I've seen Colossus fans use their fight to claim that they were physical equals, so my comparison is correct.
Originally posted by ringtones
dude... wolverine was down and stated no one can be that fast which already tell us that gorgon was too good for wolverine to even believe so that does mean that gorgon supress wolverine highest abilities to the point wolverine cant believe it again you fail
OMG, Colossus can destroy a planet and has high-end superspeed!!!!!
Originally posted by Silent Master
I've seen Colossus fans use their fight to claim that they were physical equals, so my comparison is correct.OMG, Colossus can destroy a planet and has high-end superspeed!!!!!
There is a difference between a adversarial character who was created with the solo purpose of being superior to the hero, and attributing a character with the feats of everyone they have fought. See if you can figure out what it is.
Originally posted by ringtones
only colossus has a long long years established career that shows he is no where near as strong as gladiator while every showing of gorgon show him being superiour to speedsters and anyone he fights
You do realize that you just admitted that statements don't make things true, it's repeated feats. right?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
There is a difference between a adversarial character who was created with the solo purpose of being superior to the hero, and attributing a character with the feats of everyone they have fought. See if you can figure out what it is.
I see, we are back to your double standards.
Originally posted by Silent Master
I see, we are back to your double standards.
Where's the double standard? Gorgon is Wolverine + that is his character. Colossus isn't Gladiator +, he is merely a character who fought Gladiator once. They are completely different comparisons that you have lumped together because you are inept. Apples and Oranges champ, apples and oranges.