The Gorgon and Omega Red vs Thor in Melee Fight

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Find it yourself. I sick of constantly having to educate you.

Originally posted by Starscream M
you aren't educating anyone, you noxious clown. all you do is make these absurd claims, and when someone calls you out on it or asks for evidence, you dismiss it or make up some excuses. 🙄

I not showing you anything untill your ***** ass battlezones me.

talks cheap chump, balls in your court and as usual your already running be my bet.

Scan isn't showing up. Or enlarging rather.

How does that prove cl 100 strength?

Did you miss the part were he completely overpowers Iron Man.......who a class 100.

Hmm... to be fair, going by that logic Spider-Man is cl100, he definitely has the feats to support it.

It looks like they're struggling on the ground. I didn't see him directly overpower him.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Oh please I made you look like an idiot countless time. I not wasting my time trying to show you a scan you will conveniently forget about the next time we debate. You bring nothing to the table, and yet constantly yammer on utter bullshit.

I not showing you anything untill your ***** ass battlezones me.

talks cheap chump, balls in your court and as usual your already running be my bet.

also, I bet you haven't posted the scan because it doesn't exist

Originally posted by Starscream M
oh look at your bravado! you lucky you punk you don't live near me or I'd be happy to have a showdown with you

also, I bet you haven't posted the scan because it doesn't exist

You can believe that all you wish, but the fact is, it most certainly exsist, but I am most certainly tired of you never educating your self, never bringing anything for the table and yet constantly demanding evidence you will magically forget the next time we debate. You sack up and verse me, and I provide the evidence, till then haft a nice day chump

can someone else ask buttlehumper for this scan he claims he has that states Omega Red has Thing level strength? he's being an ass

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Hmm... to be fair, going by that logic Spider-Man is cl100, he definitely has the feats to support it.

It looks like they're struggling on the ground. I didn't see him directly overpower him.

Struggling with red clearly looking the stronger, he at one points bends iron man back wards........

Thing at one time was stated to be only able to lift 5 tons, my guess is that if this scan exists, it's a rather old one. IOW, long before Thing's strength was upgraded to around cl 85.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Not really, spiderman feats would not place him at class 100, they palce him higher then he is but class 100, no. Also I not going by that logic. My logic is that Omega red has from day one stood toe to toe in strength with guys like colossus and overpowered ironman, been stated as having Thing level strength ect. He also been that strong. Spiderman is not comparable.

Struggling with red clearly looking the stronger, he at one points bends iron man back wards........

Thing is a class 100. No, it not from long ago at all. It from within the last 4 years.

I find it amusing that you only acknowledge hand books and not actually on pannel evidence, becuase your estimations of individuals strength level is very off.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I'm not really comparing the two, I'm just saying going by feats, Spider-Man has lifted a building, supported a skyscraper, lifted a sub, tank, train, etc. Those are cl100 feats. Jinzin mentioned on the page prior about the same thing.

No there not class 100, some perhaps debateable, However he also struggle with far less many many times. He been stated many times much weaker ect.

I not basing Omega red strength level simply off lifting feats. I basing it off how it been portrayed in strength against known class 100s. Spiderman never shown restraining people like colossus, over powering iron man, been stated as thing level strength ect.

It really seems like you are comparing the two, when there not comparable in the least. Omega red does not have thousands of apreances were his abilities in strength vastly range. He is pretty consistently shown as being match in strength for class 100 individuals.

Cl rankings basically only show up in handbooks, if you don’t want them referenced, stop giving a handbook listing for his strength level.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
He support a single support beam not the building and he dident lift it. He never liften a sub to my knowledge, he did lift a tank and part of a train.

No there not class 100, some perhaps debateable, However he also struggle with far less many many times. He been stated many times much weaker ect.

I not basing Omega red strength level simply off lifting feats. I basing it off how it been portrayed in strength against known class 100s. Spiderman never shown restraining people like colossus, over powering iron man, been stated as thing level strength ect.

It really seems like you are comparing the two, when there not comparable in the least. Omega red does not have thousands of apreances were his abilities in strength vastly range. He is pretty consistently shown as being match in strength for class 100 individuals.

Those are around "class 100 feats", Spider-Man doesn't have problems lifting anything in recent memory, he's also tossed the Hulk. Oh and a jeep up to the top of a multi-story building towards a sniper

Statements? Wolverine also stated that Spider-Man can break his neck, he also stated Gargan Venom was as strong as Thing, he also stated Sentry is more powerful than Galactus, etc. We all know what statements mean.

No. I'm not. I don't think Spider-Man is a "casual" class 100, he can do a feat like that under duress, but he isn't a casual one. I'm just saying we can't do something one way and then another with another character. We must be consistent in our debating.

And that feat was not him "overpowering" him in strength, it was just them struggling. Spider-Man throwing Hulk is more impressive.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
assuming he does this, what would it accomplish? Seems more like it delay the fight more then doing any productive.

As for class 100 strength you've gotta understand there is class 100 like colossus and the casual Iron Man then there is CLASS 100!!!! like Thor.

The gap between Colossus and Thor's strength is so vast its ridiculous.

When they say Colossus can only lift 100 tons they mean he can only lift like 150 tons max.

When they say Thor is class 100 the are talking about the fact he can lift planetary weight.

So who cares if OR is Colossus level or Thing level, which I highly doubt, the gap between Thor and OR is still so vast it doesn't matter.

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