The Gorgon and Omega Red vs Thor in Melee Fight

Originally posted by jinzin
As it stands, you've attacked my interpretation, my character, and my credability on something that's completely ambiguous even at best for your arguments. 😬

I apologize if my debating style attacked your character, it was not the intention. I actually appreciate your logic-based debating. It's certainly far better than the low-logic, appeal-to-ridicule-fallacy-based posturing and theatrics I'm used to SOME ppl from the Surfer-hate/Superman front. 😛

It's best that I not spam this thread with more of my dogged persistence to prove my point on the matter as Wolverine isn't even in this thread (and as, you stated, this is a trivial matter as you and I more or less agree on Wolverine's ability to cut Thor.). 😛

I find many of your rebuttals to be quite well written/stated. Tho, I still find it EXTREMELY difficult to accept your primary interpretation of the scene. However, your more recent interpretation of accepting the existence of the stab attack as being plausible while asking acknowledgment of the scene's inconsistencies seems pretty reasonable.

Originally posted by psycho gundam

now just imagine the resonance.....

I see nothing but frogs in ice... T_T

Is this the Thor feat where he smashes Exitar's armor and the resonance from his hit smashes entire mountain ranges/cities?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Do you think Gorgon is the bigger player here?

Not really. I think Red can really do a lot to mess up Thor's h2h game with his tenticals if he uses them right, plus his other attributes are definitely good ones, he's got a healing factor, Carbonadium armor and incredible damage soak with some pretty immense strength, as well as being referenced as having unbreakable bones, and being arguably faster than daredevil in h2h2, his coils are also able to pierce Iron Man's armor, so he could definitely be dangerous for Thor if he doesn't try slugging it out with him, I guess it's just easier to imagine what Gorgon's going to do in this fight since he pretty much has to run in and cut away so it's easier for people to talk about him, and his speed is probably the most reliable to reference in h2h combat out of these three so far.. maybe?

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
I apologize if my debating style attacked your character, it was not the intention. I actually appreciate your logic-based debating. It's certainly far better than the low-logic, appeal-to-ridicule-fallacy-based posturing and theatrics I'm used to SOME ppl from the Surfer-hate/Superman front. 😛

It's best that I not spam this thread with more of my dogged persistence to prove my point on the matter as Wolverine isn't even in this thread (and as, you stated, this is a trivial matter as you and I more or less agree on Wolverine's ability to cut Thor.). 😛

I find many of your rebuttals to be quite well written/stated. Tho, I still find it EXTREMELY difficult to accept your primary interpretation of the scene. However, your more recent interpretation of accepting the existence of the stab attack as being plausible while asking acknowledgment of the scene's inconsistencies seems pretty reasonable.

Fair enough.
Honestly, when I'm debating with a typical rival I have a habit of falling into those theatrics too. 😮
I know it's hard not to get emotionally motivated responding to these threads at times because everything in the comic world is open to a degree of interpretation and a matter of opinion. A natural result of dicussing inconsistent characters in hypothtical situations. This is why I tend to prefer "either this/or that" structured arguments in a lot of cases allowing for a reasonable conclussion on both sides of the debate.

BTW: Thanks for the compliment. 🙂

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Well, to be fair, Hulk HAS reacted to speedsters, himself as well. 😛 Blame comics (especially Marvel) for their inconsistent portrayal of speed for story purposes.

You want inconsistent portrayal of speed for story purposes, Look at DC and the different Flash characters.

Most of the people they fight should be owned in seconds.

Originally posted by carver9
He had on the belt of strength to pull that feat. He was 10 times stronger than his normal self. He could create shockwaves but not to that level.

The belt doesn't make him 10 times stronger, it makes him 2x stronger.

You know this might be melee but aren't people forgetting that Thor can you know spin his hammer so fast that the force itself simply creates hurricane winds. No energy/magic involved, it just comes from him spinning the hammer really fast.

Originally posted by Newjak
You know this might be melee but aren't people forgetting that Thor can you know spin his hammer so fast that the force itself simply creates hurricane winds. No energy/magic involved, it just comes from him spinning the hammer really fast.

Yes, because both of the can withstand being slammed into the ground or wall with hurricane force.

Yes easily mind you. Doubt red would even be moved by such an attack. He class 100 by the way.

btw, regarding the tactic some people put forth regarding thor smashing the hammer down to create shockwaves

that wouldn't work nor be wise

this isn't an open space where the vibrations go outward and thor doesn't have to worry

this is an adamantium statium, so any shockwaves will be reverberated back at Thor at a very concentrated effect...and he would be essentially hurting himself

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
He class 100 by the way.

Thor is durable enough to take it.

Originally posted by Starscream M
lol...I like how you say that as if its a fact now.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Why, it true and back by evidence. In fact there little reason to believe he not a class 100.

now I give him the benefit of doubt and put him at around class 50 - 60 (tops)

to say he is a legit CL100er is ridiculous

Originally posted by Starscream M
he is listed as a class 10

now I give him the benefit of doubt and put him at around class 50 - 60 (tops)

to say he is a legit CL100er is ridiculous

No your not. Your trying to rationalise him being weaker then what he shows based off a hand book. all your doing is being silly.

No it not. He overpowered 100 ton opponents before and been stated as having Thing level strength. The fact you ignore this and trying and rationalise putting him much weak based of hand books, is what ridculous.

He's not class 100. Period. As for the fight... Thor wins

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan

No it not. He overpowered 100 ton opponents before and been stated as having Thing level strength. The fact you ignore this and trying and rationalise putting him much weak based of hand books, is what ridculous.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
He's not class 100. Period. As for the fight... Thor wins

Now tell me what this scans shows.

Originally posted by Starscream M
show me the damn scan where it stated that he has Thing level strength then!