The Gorgon and Omega Red vs Thor in Melee Fight

Started by Starscream M117 pages

Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
This thread is an embarrassment to humanity.

"Yeah, let's make this a melee battle. It will totally make it more fair. It's not like Thor has thousands of years of combat experience and is one of the top-tier Class 100 combatants in the universe. Neither has he shown the ability to block individual bullets with his hammer, catch speedsters nor constantly surprise fast opponents."

not like thor ever got flustered by logan 🙄

Originally posted by Starscream M
not like thor ever got flustered by logan 🙄

You mean when Thor was holding back because Wolverine wasn't in his right mind?

BTW, this fight is between Gorgon, OR and Thor. Wolverine isn't part of this fight.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You mean when Thor was holding back because Wolverine wasn't in his right mind?
yes. your point?

Originally posted by Starscream M
not like thor ever got flustered by logan 🙄

So? Thor gets "flustered" by many people below him and deliberately holds back against most opponents. Hell, Puma has dodged Mjolnir but that's not much of an argument for Puma > Thor.

Again, where are the OR and Gorgon scans? Comparison by proxy doesn't work, and there's no point in talking about Wolverine as some magic standard. If OR and Gorgon are fast enough to beat Thor then their on-panel feats will prove it.

Unless you know...they don't exist.

Originally posted by Starscream M
yes. your point?

Thor won't be holding back in this fight.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thor won't be holding back in this fight.
he's still without some of his most important powers

Originally posted by Starscream M
he's still without some of his most important powers

Powers he doesn't need to wreck their shit. Let's not lowball Thor that much.

Originally posted by Starscream M
he's still without some of his most important powers

He won't need them for this fight.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He won't need them for this fight.
iyo

Originally posted by Starscream M
iyo

In the opinion of anyone that isn't severely low-balling Thor or massively over-estimating Gorgon and OR.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You mean when Thor was holding back because Wolverine wasn't in his right mind?

BTW, this fight is between Gorgon, OR and Thor. Wolverine isn't part of this fight.


Yep, holding back everything but his "fiercest and finest" blows...

But hell that was only in context to the melee exchange not like that would matter in this thread anyway. 🙄

Originally posted by jinzin
Yep, holding back everything but his "fiercest and finest" blows...

But hell that was only in context to the melee exchange not like that would matter in this thread anyway. 🙄

Hyperbole.

Originally posted by Silent Master
In the opinion of anyone that isn't severely low-balling Thor or massively over-estimating Gorgon and OR.

You don't need to lowball Thor to know that he doesn't fight faster than Gorgon, that he can't do damage to Carbonadium coils, or that an Adamantium sword can cut him.

You don't need to overestimate Gorgon to know that his skill is more impressive than Thor's by Marvel Comic standards, that his mind reading is going to be hard to Thor to overcome in the first place, and that a combined effort from him and OR against Thor in a confrontation strictly limited to melee tactics is not necessarily in Thor's favor.

Any insistance that this is a non-fight just because it's Thor that's fighting is as weak an argument as insisting that using Wolverine as a frame of reference for this fight doesn't count. 😐

Originally posted by Silent Master
Hyperbole.

Based on what?

Originally posted by jinzin
You don't need to lowball Thor to know that he doesn't fight faster than Gorgon, that he can't do damage to Carbonadium coils, or that an Adamantium sword can cut him.

You don't need to overestimate Gorgon to know that his skill is more impressive than Thor's by Marvel Comic standards, that his mind reading is going to be hard to Thor to overcome in the first place, and that a combined effort from him and OR against Thor in a confrontation strictly limited to melee tactics is not necessarily in Thor's favor.

Any insistance that this is a non-fight just because it's Thor that's fighting is as weak an argument as insisting that using Wolverine as a frame of reference for this fight doesn't count. 😐

Thor wins.

Originally posted by jinzin
Based on what?

Actually knowing some of Thor's feats.

Originally posted by jinzin
Yep, holding back everything but his "fiercest and finest" blows...
Riiiiiight... I guess Thor could only hit Wolverine with his "less-than-fiercest and finest blows" since he actually did end up hitting him (but they couldn't be his fiercest and finest, amirite?!)...

... faaaaan-tastic.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thor wins.

Actually knowing some of Thor's feats.

Again with this arrogant bullshit....

Because I'm of the opinion that Thor concievably loses this fight where he's been extremely depowered I'm automatically unfamiliar with Thor?

This is complete nonsense, the fact of the matter is that being familiar with Thor is WHY I don't equate him to being Marvel's Superman.

He isn't... You want to talk about Thor feats?

How about him being too slow to counter Spiderbot?
Getting tied up by Hulk with a cable.
Tied by Hyde with steel.
Blitzed by Hyde and Cobra too fast to attack or catch either of them.
Pwned by Cap's tactics.
Evaded by Cap for a minute with the Avengers backing him up.

What you think I can't go on and on with this? Seriously.... you want to pull the "you don't know what you're talkin about" card? Seriously.... 😐

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Riiiiiight... I guess Thor could only hit Wolverine with his "less-than-fiercest and finest blows" since he actually did end up hitting him (but they couldn't be his fiercest and finest, amirite?!)...

... faaaaan-tastic.

No one said Wolverine's untouchable.

Do you have fighting experience Onedumb?

Originally posted by jinzin
Again with this arrogant bullshit....

Because I'm of the opinion that Thor concievably loses this fight where he's been extremely depowered I'm automatically unfamiliar with Thor?

This is complete nonsense, the fact of the matter is that being familiar with Thor is WHY I don't equate him to being Marvel's Superman.

He isn't... You want to talk about Thor feats?

How about him being too slow to counter Spiderbot?
Getting tied up by Hulk with a cable.
Tied by Hyde with steel.
Blitzed by Hyde and Cobra too fast to attack or catch either of them.
Pwned by Cap's tactics.
Evaded by Cap for a minute with the Avengers backing him up.

What you think I can't go on and on with this? Seriously.... you want to pull the "you don't know what you're talkin about" card? Seriously.... 😐

As you're trying to pass that statement off as something other than the hyperbole that it obviously was....I was fully justified in using that card.

Originally posted by jinzin
No one said Wolverine's untouchable.

Do you have fighting experience Onedumb?

lolwtf?

Thor couldn't hit Wolverine with his self-proclaimed "fiercest and finest blows." Then he hits Wolverine. So either Thor can hit Wolverine with "less-than-fiercest and finest blows" or Thor was just aggrandizing Wolverine.

Obviously, you can't find yourself accepting either possibility, instead, pretending like Thor didn't end up tagging Wolverine and pretending like Thor wasn't holding back. Fine job, thar.