The Gorgon and Omega Red vs Thor in Melee Fight

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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Killer Croc has tagged Batman, but Batman is still faster than Killer Croc. Simple. Being able to land a hit, doesn't mean there isn't a disparity in speed, just that the disparity isn't insurmountable.
Killer Croc doesn't hold back, pontificate, and then when losing his patience, utterly destroy Batman in combat.

Your attempted analogy is both inept and witless.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Every bio that I've been able to find on Killer Croc states that he has superhuman speed.

He doesn't.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Killer Croc doesn't hold back, pontificate, and then when losing his patience, utterly destroy Batman in combat.

Your attempted analogy is both inept and witless.

And according to the narration, Thor didn't hold back. Nor did he "utter destroy," Wolverine in combat. He hit twice in succession and did absolutely no damage. All Thor could do wit his "fiercest attacks" was break Wolverine's mind control and make him smirk. Try again.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He doesn't.

Got anything from a comic stating he only has human level speed?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And according to the narration, Thor didn't hold back. Nor did he "utter destroy," Wolverine in combat. He hit twice in succession and did absolutely no damage. All Thor could do wit his "fiercest attacks" was break Wolverine's mind control and make him smirk. Try again.
Narration =/= Thor's purple prose which you mangle.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Try again.
Sorry, Wolverine (after failing to do nothing more than cause kitty-scratches) eating gravel and smoking in a crater, going, "uhhhhhh," only gets to smirk only after Thor relents in his attacks.

So not only do you manage to mangle common sense by analogizing Thor/Wolverine to Killer Croc/Batman, you managed to mangle simple literacy by confusing the events. Hell... there are pictures to go with the words, even.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Got anything from a comic stating he only has human level speed?

Just the knowledge that outside the possible exception his brief Hush boost, he has never been stated to have superhuman speed, nor has he ever demonstrated any feats of superhuman speed.

You mean other that tagging someone that is far more skilled than him?

This is Logan getting destroyed after Thor has had enough of the kitty-scratch bs and talking sense into Wolverine:

There is little, if nothing, in that fight which suggests Wolverine has a snowball's chance in hell in taking on Thor. It's the complete opposite. Thor's durability outlasts Wolverine's claws in a fight. Wolverine's agility does not outlast Thor's patience in a fight. Nuff said.

Butt-hurt Wolverine threads apparently outlast all common sense and logic though. So you have at least that much going for you.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Narration =/= Thor's purple prose which you mangle.

"WAAAAAAAA! Thor speaks in old English and says verely, nothing he says matters unless it falls into lock step with my deluded bias of how events unfold! WAAAAAAA!!!" crybaby

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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Sorry, Wolverine (after failing to do nothing more than cause kitty-scratches) eating gravel and smoking in a crater, going, "uhhhhhh," only gets to smirk only after Thor relents in his attacks.

A mind-controlled Wolverine, operating at diminished capacity landed several glancing blows on Thor, who was unable to land a direct hit in melee combat. The two hit's he managed to land were due to flight and ranged attacks which are prohibited in stips of this thread, and they had no effect anyway.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
So not only do you manage to mangle common sense by analogizing Thor/Wolverine to Killer Croc/Batman, you managed to mangle simple literacy by confusing the events. Hell... there are pictures to go with the words, even.

The Croc/Batman analogy was apt. Silent Master, disgrace to the name Arashikage, thought that Thor tagging Wolverine once, someone invalidate the fact that Wolverine was stated to be faster, and managed to tag Thor with three unanswered attacks. Wolverine was shown to be faster, he was stated to be faster, he just wasn't shown to be untouchable (which I don't think anyone as argued).

srank just pmed me, he thinks Thor wins.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
This is Logan getting destroyed after Thor has had enough of the kitty-scratch bs and talking sense into Wolverine:

There is little, if nothing, in that fight which suggests Wolverine has a snowball's chance in hell in taking on Thor. It's the complete opposite. Thor's durability outlasts Wolverine's claws in a fight. Wolverine's agility does not outlast Thor's patience in a fight. Nuff said.

Butt-hurt Wolverine threads apparently outlast all common sense and logic though. So you have at least that much going for you.

Thor is shown to be unable to tag a mind-controlled Wolverine in melee, Wolverine's glancing blows are shown to damage Thor, and Thor's "fiercest attacks" are shown to have no effect on Wolverine outside of breaking his mind-control.

Wow, You're really mad that a angry Wolverine wasn't able to do more than slightly annoy a Thor that was trying to talk sense into him.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Thor's "fiercest attacks" are shown to have no effect on Wolverine outside of breaking his mind-control.

Do you really believe those were Thor's fiercest attacks and that they would, in a forum setting, not effect Wolverine outside of jarring him slightly?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
"WAAAAAAAA! Thor speaks in old English and says verely, nothing he says matters unless it falls into lock step with my deluded bias of how events unfold! WAAAAAAA!!!" crybaby

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Nothing he says matters when his own actions prove him wrong. In this case, Thor has swung fiercer blows. In this case, Wolverine wasn't too fast for Thor to tag. Facts > purple prose. Even Thor's purple prose.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
A mind-controlled Wolverine, operating at diminished capacity landed several glancing blows on Thor, who was unable to land a direct hit in melee combat. The two hit's he managed to land were due to flight and ranged attacks which are prohibited in stips of this thread, and they had no effect anyway.
Shove your red herring "diminished capacity" crap. Wolverine was going for the kill and not holding back. Nobody was controlling how he fought lik a puppeteer. He fought as hard as if he were fighting Sabretooth. And all he managed to do was kitty-scratch Thor, drain his patience and get two-shotted into eating dirt, smoking a$$-up, with a "uhhh..." as Thor relents in his attacks. The only one operating at a diminished capacity was Thor, who wasn't trying to kick the sh1t out of Wolverine up until the point he actually did kick the sh1t out of Wolverine on-panel.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The Croc/Batman analogy was apt. Silent Master, disgrace to the name Arashikage, thought that Thor tagging Wolverine once, someone invalidate the fact that Wolverine was stated to be faster, and managed to tag Thor with three unanswered attacks. Wolverine was shown to be faster, he was stated to be faster, he just wasn't shown to be untouchable (which I don't think anyone as argued).
Your analogy is retarded. It only shows the depths you've deluded yourself. Killer Croc ain't Thor. He ain't got Thor's combat experience, speed feats or power. Granting all your absurd semantic horsecrap full faith and credit, Wolverine's "superior" agility permitted him to kitty-scratch Thor menially and then get two shotted.

That's not evidence that Thor can be brought down to Wolverine's level, much less Gorgon's. It's the exact opposite.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Thor is shown to be unable to tag a mind-controlled Wolverine in melee except when he actually does by grabbing him and whacking him, Wolverine's glancing blows are shown to damage Thor with menial scratches to show for it, and Thor's "fiercest attacks" are shown to not be his fiercest attacks since he's wrecked Abstract entities with such attacks and have no effect on Wolverine outside of breaking his mind-control and leaving him face-down, smoking, whimpering, "uhhh..." causing Thor to cease with the a$$-whupping.
Fixed by removing the butt-hurt and inserting common sense.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Do you really believe those were Thor's fiercest attacks and that they would, in a forum setting, not effect Wolverine outside of jarring him slightly?

It would take more than two. WWH held Wolverine with one hand and unloaded a dozen haymakers in quick succession directly on Logan's head... and Wolverine was still retaliating with attacks until the last two or so landed. Wolverine has spend his whole career eating the best attacks Marvel's Big Guns could throw at him... why would this instance be any different, especially when Thor was expressly stated not to be holding back?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It would take more than two. WWH held Wolverine with one hand and unloaded a dozen haymakers in quick succession directly on Logan's head... and Wolverine was still retaliating with attacks until the last two or so landed. Wolverine has spend his whole career eating the best attacks Marvel's Big Guns could throw at him... why would this instance be any different, especially when Thor was expressly stated not to be holding back?

And yet Wonderman beat Wolverine into the ground with a few hits.

Those weren't even WWH's fiercest attacks though.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It would take more than two. WWH held Wolverine with one hand and unloaded a dozen haymakers in quick succession directly on Logan's head... and Wolverine was still retaliating with attacks until the last two or so landed. Wolverine has spend his whole career eating the best attacks Marvel's Big Guns could throw at him... why would this instance be any different, especially when Thor was expressly stated not to be holding back?
Good job using one of Wolverine's greatest blunt durability feats while ignoring Thor's best striking power feats and also ignoring Wolverine's lower end and average blunt durability feats.

Thor needs to hit him as hard as Frankencastle hit him:

Originally posted by Silent Master
And yet Wonderman beat Wolverine into the ground with a few hits.

Wonderman ambushed Wolverine... and even after his onslaught, Wolverine wasn't even koed. Ionic Wonderman briefly dropped Wolverine in Avengers with on shot... but he did the same thing to Thor right before hand, and more recently Wolverine shrugged off a pissed of Wonderman's assault in Children's Crusade.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Good job using one of Wolverine's greatest blunt durability feats while ignoring Thor's best striking power feats and also ignoring Wolverine's lower end and average blunt durability feats.

Thor needs to hit him as hard as Frankencastle hit him:

What does Daniel Wayverine have to do with this thread? We are talking about Wolverine.