The Gorgon and Omega Red vs Thor in Melee Fight

Originally posted by jinzin
Of course there's also the forth option where you're wrong (which is consistent) about what Wolverine's capible of taking because he IS capible of tanking multiple class 100 shots before going down (which is FAR MORE consistent than the opposite) and WWH who was crushing, disabling, and hospitalizing multiple other X members wasn't "holding back" just because he was up against on of his most consistent rogues, whom he even referenced as not having the time to fight all day which would indicate a more effecient/proficient performance.

God you fail so hard in this thread.

See, I make excuses which paint Wolverine feats in a bad light and I get called a troll, retarded or accused of failing; whereas the Wolverine side makes excuses which paint Wolverine in a good light or Thor in a bad light and the cheerleaders act like they’re making good points.

It’s kind of sad how easy it is to get people to display their double standards.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I love the double standard.

Thor tanks several slashes from Wolverine = glancing blows
Wolverine tanks several hits from cl 100’s = Wolverine can tank cl 100 hits.

It's not a double standard. It's just what's happened.

Wolverine hit Thor with slashes; slashes have been referenced as less damaging than "strait-shots", which makes sense (For instance, I can't do much damage trying to cut you with a butter knife but I bet I can stab you with one).

We saw that those slashes did enough significant damage to cause Thor to cry out in agony, AND have him admit that even his durability would fail after only recieving two slashing blows that where penetrating his armor.

The bottem line is that Wolverine never hit him with a full on stab on panel... despite what speculations have been made about what we CAN'T see.

Wolverine tanking full on C100 blows to the face is something he's been doing his whole career. It isn't a byproduct of rolling with punches or characters holding back and that can be flat out proven using Savage Hulk as a basis who has pounded a defensless Wolverine literally into the ground only for Wolverine to get back up.

On-panel Thor only took slight damage from an anrgy Wolverine.

Originally posted by Silent Master
On-panel Thor only took slight damage from an anrgy Wolverine.

Slight damage? That's why he was screaming, nursing his wounds and bleeding out?

Makes sense.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Slight damage? That's why he was screaming, nursing his wounds and bleeding out?

Makes sense.

For someone that was "seriously injured" he sure didn't seem to be in a hurry to seek medical attention.

Makes sense.

Originally posted by Silent Master
See, I make excuses which paint Wolverine feats in a bad light and I get called a troll, retarded or accused of failing; whereas the Wolverine side makes excuses which paint Wolverine in a good light or Thor in a bad light and the cheerleaders act like they’re making good points.

It’s kind of sad how easy it is to get people to display their double standards.

There's a difference between what you're doing and what others are doing.

You're asking people to prove points that are proven through empirical means.

As in: we know 1+1=2 and have it stated, and you're asking us to prove that 2-1=1 just because it isn't. It's redardation, insanity, or trolling.

The issue with Thor comes down to a few things.
1. durability: There's a few instances where his durability holds out against claws, axes, and swords... none of them comparible to Wolverine's adamantium weaponry. There's also instances where he gets completely owned by blades that are also not comparible to Adamantium weaponry.

The funny thing, Wolverine's claws blocked a weapon that nearly killed Thor through cutting/stabbing.... but Thor fans are going to try and say Thor can't be stabbed/cut by Wolverine in spite of what the fight stated, because he's stood up to other things that aren't those claws? Sweet.

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2. Thor's speed: This is HUGELY problematic because Thor has speed feats which are either being overblown beyond reason or they're feats for Mjolnir's capbilities that are being projected on Thor.

There's plenty of people from "my side" that are willing to have a reasonable debate here, but you asking people to prove that bleedouts tax Wolverine's healing factor, or what induces a bleedout, or whatever other nonesense you use to fillibuster the conversation is hardly reasonable.

Originally posted by Silent Master
On-panel Thor only took slight damage from an anrgy Wolverine.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Slight damage? That's why he was screaming, nursing his wounds and bleeding out?

Makes sense.

Slashing doesn't mean superficial....also this

Originally posted by Silent Master
For someone that was "seriously injured" he sure didn't seem to be in a hurry to seek medical attention.

Makes sense.

Originally posted by jinzin
It's not a double standard. It's just what's happened.

Wolverine hit Thor with slashes; slashes have been referenced as less damaging than "strait-shots", which makes sense (For instance, I can't do much damage trying to cut you with a butter knife but I bet I can stab you with one).

We saw that those slashes did enough significant damage to cause Thor to cry out in agony, AND have him admit that even his durability would fail after only recieving two slashing blows that where penetrating his armor.

The bottem line is that Wolverine never hit him with a full on stab on panel... despite what speculations have been made about what we CAN'T see.

Wolverine tanking full on C100 blows to the face is something he's been doing his whole career. It isn't a byproduct of rolling with punches or characters holding back and that can be flat out proven using Savage Hulk as a basis who has pounded a defensless Wolverine literally into the ground only for Wolverine to get back up.

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I really don't think we read the same fight.

Enough with this glancing blow and slashes crap. You guys love referencing Thor's comments as if they were gospel. Now how about we take the clear intentions of the comic and apply them? Wolverine was doing superficial damage because of Thor's durability and not because he was landing glancing blows.

At one point, he stabbed Thor in the back. And yes that's what happened despite the idiocy.

No that's not what he said. This is not the first time I've seen you phrase it that way. Motherf*cker, are you sure you're reading the comic properly?

He didn't say that Wolverine would start doing significant damage from then on if that's what you're implying. He said that eventually Logan would start doing real damage.

And lawlz at the double standard.

When does Thor go seeking medical attention in a fight if he's hurt.

Originally posted by Nihilist
When does Thor go seeking medical attention in a fight if he's hurt.

He didn't seek it after the fight either, he just stood there talking with Wolverine and acting like the damage was minor.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He didn't seek it after the fight either, he just stood there talking with Wolverine and acting like the damage was minor.

Wolverine did some damage to the rib area which was bleeding. IIRC, right after Thor went on to confront some enemies and the damage was forgotten.

Originally posted by Nihilist
So have other instances of Thor seeking medical attention when he's been hurt in other fights then to back your theory up.

Interesting, so people can use the way Thor acted to prove he was seriously injured, but I can’t use the Thor acted to prove he wasn’t.

Hello double standard, it’s nice to see you again.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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I really don't think we read the same fight.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Enough with this glancing blow and slashes crap. You guys love referencing Thor's comments as if they were gospel. Now how about we take the clear intentions of the comic and apply them? Wolverine was doing superficial damage because of Thor's durability and not because he was landing glancing blows.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
At one point, he stabbed Thor in the back. And yes that's what happened despite the idiocy.

Sorry, that's speculation. Nothing on panel confirms this as truth "despite the idiocy."

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No that's not what he said. This is not the first time I've seen you phrase it that way. Motherf*cker, are you sure you're reading the comic properly?

He didn't say that Wolverine would start doing significant damage from then on if that's what you're implying. He said that eventually Logan would start doing real damage.

He said his durability wouldn't hold out forever, after two cuts.
He drew doubt to his durability after two cuts and suggested that in-part is what made him change tactics from strict h2h... that's what happened.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Interesting, so people can use the way Thor acted to prove he was seriously injured, but I can’t use the Thor acted to prove he wasn’t.

Hello double standard, it’s nice to see you again.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Interesting, so people can use the way Thor acted to prove he was seriously injured, but I can’t use the Thor acted to prove he wasn’t.

Hello double standard, it’s nice to see you again.

No one said he was "seriously injured" we're just saying the damage was as inconsequential as you people are insisting.

Guys, from this point on, I don't want to see Wolverine in this thread unless we're seeing Gorgon or Omega Red fighting him as a feat of some sort.

The thread is off topic to the point that it's ridiculous, and Bada and I have a list of three or four people that are dangerously close to banning. You want to show Thor's resistance to adamantium? Then please, try to use non Wolverine examples, because to do otherwise would only turn the thread back in to the shitstorm it is right now.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Nothing to do with double standards from me as im asking you and not questioning them, so do you have any proof?

Off-hand I can't think of any instances where he's been hurt badly enough to seek medical attention, including the Wolverine fight.

Originally posted by jinzin
Oh we did but considering some of your... interpretations... 😕

My interpretations? Heh.

Originally posted by jinzin
Okay, why don't we?
Wolverine WAS doing "superficial" damage, the "superficial" nature of the damage was accredited to Thor's durability.
Wolverine WAS doing damage though, enough to cut through Thor's armor, make him cry out in agony, and bleed, as well as nurse himself after the fight ended.
Wolverine WAS doing damage with slashes, that's what we see happening on panel.
Thor ALSO admitted that his durability wouldn't hold out after only 2 "superficial" blows had landed in part requiring him to change tactics.

Okay, glad we agree.

Less agony, and more pain. He was going "ARGH" and such not howling like he was going to die. Yes, he nursed one wound.

Is slash another term for glancing?

facepalm

Originally posted by jinzin
Sorry, that's speculation. Nothing on panel confirms this as truth "despite the idiocy."

Oh yea, I forgot, Thor was in surprised or whatever. Christ.

Originally posted by jinzin
He said his durability wouldn't hold out forever, after two cuts.
He drew doubt to his durability after two cuts and suggested that in-part is what made him change tactics from strict h2h... that's what happened.

I don't think you read the comic properly. Here you go:
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/wolvie_thor4.jpg

Can you tell me what happened there or are you unable to read English?

Thor said that the advantage won't last forever. He changed tactics because of Wolverine's speed.

Do you understand how this is different from your posts? Do you?