Originally posted by carver9
Omg..mNo one is saying that he is weak but he never displayed anything showing that he could run through a high herald.
He destroyed a damaged/weakened anti monitor. His average showings doesn't depict him as anything that you all are saying.
Which average showings are you looking for? He certainly pierced Superman with heat vision and shrugged off a charged attack of Black Adam. I don't know which high heralds you know capable of doing either, but those aren't high herald feats, they are higher.
You can keep dismissing his Monarch feat, or his Guardian feat, or even his Anti-Monitor feat, oh and his Ion feat. At the end you'll end up redefining the word Average...
Originally posted by carver9
Omg..mNo one is saying that he is weak but he never displayed anything showing that he could run through a high herald.
He destroyed a damaged/weakened anti monitor. His average showings doesn't depict him as anything that you all are saying.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Inexperienced with the Ion power, maybe. Inexperienced as a Lantern, no. Other GLs said he was about as good as vets. How about no-selling Black Adam's punches (magically charged or not, the physical effort put into them was still shrugged off)? He dismissed him with a nonchalant backfist. Not to mention his heat vision completely incinerated Grundy.
The fight against ION wasn't that impressive and shouldnt be something to use as evidence... he was new to his powers.
He didn't no sell black adams punches... his head was turning. That fight would have lasted longer if Black Adam wasn't bfred. By the way, during Supes and Adam fight, Adam wasn't damaged at all from Superman punches but that doesn't prove that he is above Supes either, they can just take each other punches.
Hhhmmm, his heat vision took out Grundy and during that same arc, black Adam snatched Amazo head completely off.
Originally posted by Nihilist
I would say only BA at a push is high Herald, Hal maybe.
Black Adam lacks the high end planet moving/busting feats and 'extra' powers that usually get you a High Herald slot, but its proven that he's a match for HHs in a scrap any day. And this was a pissed Black Adam.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Depends on your definition of High Herald, but he pwned Black Adam, Hal Jordan, and Guy Gardner like they were nothing.
He didn't pwne Black Adam, he bfred him and the next panel, Adam wasn't even phased by his punch. When did he pwn HJ? Guy Gardner isn't high but when did he pwn him?
Originally posted by Omega VisionI can see the argument for Hal and Kyle for high due to the amount of feats they have.
I can understand why you wouldn't consider Guy HH, but Hal I think is one of the few Lanterns who's feats put him comfortably in HH.
Black Adam lacks the high end planet moving/busting feats and 'extra' powers that usually get you a High Herald slot, but its proven that he's a match for HHs in a scrap any day. And this was a pissed Black Adam. [/B]I would place WW3 BA at high herald, also when isnt Adam pissed off 😛
Originally posted by carver9
He didn't pwne Black Adam, he bfred him and the next panel, Adam wasn't even phased by his punch. When did he pwn HJ? Guy Gardner isn't high but when did he pwn him?
He pwned Hal and Guy along with more than a dozen other Lanterns at the end of Infinite Crisis.
Originally posted by Nihilist
I can see the argument for Hal and Kyle for high due to the amount of feats they have.I would place WW3 BA at high herald, also when isnt Adam pissed off 😛
Black Adam and Superman once had a short scrap were Black Adam was fairly calm, even so he held his own against a Superman who thought he was aiding the villain of the story, Dr Psycho.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Lol. Black Adam being bfred saved him from getting murdered. He was pissed and amping his punches with magic. Prime said they tickled. Prime was the one who wasn't phased, Black Adam practically got laid out and had a "oh shit that hurt!" angry face on.He pwned Hal and Guy along with more than a dozen other Lanterns at the end of Infinite Crisis.
For something not to phase Prime, his head sure as hell was almost doing a 360. Prime was just talking sh**. Then let's not even include the fact that before and after Black Adams attack, Conner and Wondergirl was affecting Prime with their attacks.
Show me him pwning them because I also remember Hal making Prime scream out in pain from a random blast.
Prime didn't have a showing against one HH that entire arc to assume that he would just run through them.
Originally posted by carver9
For something not to phase Prime, his head sure as hell was almost doing a 360. Prime was just talking sh**. Then let's not even include the fact that before and after Black Adams attack, Conner and Wondergirl was affecting Prime with their attacks.Show me him pwning them because I also remember Hal making Prime scream out in pain from a random blast.
Prime didn't have a showing against one HH that entire arc to assume that he would just run through them.
So he was talking shit against Mordru too.
Let me put it this some other way: What has Prime done for you to think he ain't above High Herald? You seem adamant to disprove every showing he has but you haven't point out why you rate him the way you do.
Originally posted by Bentley
So he was talking shit against Mordru too.Let me put it this some other way: What has Prime done for you to think he ain't above High Herald? You seem adamant to disprove every showing he has but you haven't point out why you rate him the way you do.
Different type of attacks. Mordu was shooting magical attacks whereas Black Adam was punching him.
I never said Prime isn't above High Herald, he is low trans imo but he isn't at the level of running through people like Supes/Thor, etc... because he never showed it.
Three shotting Thor, Superman, Hulk... that ain't happening. if Zeus or Zom strange couldn't 3 shot Hulk or a warrior madness Thor, Prime isn't doing it. He would beat them, I agree but I can see each of them giving him a hell of a fight unless you ignore the characters history.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
L3W. HE ONE SHOTTED TIME TRAPPER, who was himself at the time. That's not uber?
Hulk one shotted Zom Strange and proceeded at beating his face in. Then we have Rulk one shotting trans/skyfathers, running through High Heralds, along with stomping Odin Force Thor but yet, when he faced Hulk, his attacks ment nothing to him and he got one shotted.
Going by feats... the way you all are just blurting out stuff, Rulk alone would DESTROY prime since his feats are so much better.
Originally posted by carver9You are utterly insane. Time Trapper is more powerful than everyone you just named.
Hulk one shotted Zom Strange and proceeded at beating his face in. Then we have Rulk one shotting trans/skyfathers, running through High Heralds, along with stomping Odin Force Thor but yet, when he faced Hulk, his attacks ment nothing to him and he got one shotted.Going by feats... the way you all are just blurting out stuff, Rulk alone would DESTROY prime since his feats are so much better.
Originally posted by carver9
Different type of attacks. Mordu was shooting magical attacks whereas Black Adam was punching him.I never said Prime isn't above High Herald, he is low trans imo but he isn't at the level of running through people like Supes/Thor, etc... because he never showed it.
Three shotting Thor, Superman, Hulk... that ain't happening. if Zeus or Zom strange couldn't 3 shot Hulk or a warrior madness Thor, Prime isn't doing it. He would beat them, I agree but I can see each of them giving him a hell of a fight unless you ignore the characters history.
Prime doesn't have the commodity of having the sea of feats that Superman, Hulk and even Thor have; but his feats are very concentrated in the time he has appeared. If Prime is playing around high heralds can hang, but if he goes all out they have no chance in hell.
Don't come and tell me shruging off Mordru is not an amazing feat. I still don't get why ignore all of Prime's feats and try to make them seem as less than they are.
Originally posted by carver9Lies, he never one shotted Zom, and the scan Gundam posted in another thread prove that(and you act like Zomstrange was something special).
Hulk one shotted Zom Strange and proceeded at beating his face in.
[quote]Then we have Rulk one shotting trans/skyfathers, running through High Heralds, along with stomping Odin Force Thor but yet, when he faced Hulk, his attacks ment nothing to him and he got one shotted.Who did Rulk beat that Prime couldnt, because Rulk didnt beat down anyone special under his own power.Going by feats... the way you all are just blurting out stuff, Rulk alone would DESTROY prime since his feats are so much better. [/B]