Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Captain Marvel and Black Adam win, Wonder Woman... well... she there to I guess.
Are you assuming current WW? Classic, she's as strong as Marvel (with nigh-identical power sources to boot, both divine champions), and bloodlusted more dangerous than Billy. Cutting-enchanted tiara, soul-affecting lasso, and all that.
Wonder Woman isn't as strong as Captain Marvel/Black Adam, though. At least not based on their relationship/portrayal as compared to Superman. Wonder Woman is consistently shown and portrayed to be slightly weaker than Superman physically, whereas Captain Marvel routinely is considered to be his equal in that regard among others. Diana's a far better fighter than Billy and has more options physically, but strength wise, she's not his equal.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankWhat Strength feats do Billy have? Now what strength feats do Wonder Woman have? If we are going by portrayals against Superman, Wonder Woman has done more lasting harm to Superman than Billy every has. If I'm wrong, disprove me.
Wonder Woman isn't as strong as Captain Marvel/Black Adam, though. At least not based on their relationship/portrayal as compared to Superman. Wonder Woman is consistently shown and portrayed to be slightly weaker than Superman physically, whereas Captain Marvel routinely is considered to be his equal in that regard among others. Diana's a far better fighter than Billy and has more options physically, but strength wise, she's not his equal.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Wonder Woman isn't as strong as Captain Marvel/Black Adam, though. At least not based on their relationship/portrayal as compared to Superman. Wonder Woman is consistently shown and portrayed to be slightly weaker than Superman physically, whereas Captain Marvel routinely is considered to be his equal in that regard among others. Diana's a far better fighter than Billy and has more options physically, but strength wise, she's not his equal.
Overall power wise, they're in the same league.
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Anyway, srankmissingnin's talking about JMS Wondy, who like he says, is useless.
Originally posted by Comics Queen
Current WW isn't a demi-god. The OP says the Demi-gods. I assume he meant pre- WW600.
Technically classic Wonder Woman isn't a demi-god either... and neither are Captain Marvel or Black Adam. Wonder Girl is a demi-god, her father is Zeus, but Wonder Woman, Black Adam are Captain Marvel are avatars or power conduits for the powers of several gods, but they have no divine heritage.
Originally posted by srankmissingninWW's father is a God. I'm Almost sure that was revealed. And WW was actually A Goddess who demoted herself. That would count as a Demigod as well.
Technically classic Wonder Woman isn't a demi-god either... and neither are Captain Marvel or Black Adam. Wonder Girl is a demi-god, her father is Zeus, but Wonder Woman, Black Adam are Captain Marvel are avatars or power conduits for the powers of several gods, but they have no divine heritage.
Originally posted by Comics Queen
WW's father is a God. I'm Almost sure that was revealed. And WW was actually A Goddess who demoted herself. That would count as a Demigod as well.
I'm not too familiar with her Pre-Crisis origins, but Post-Crisis she is made from clay. Hippolyta is only her mother in that she shaped the clay, she has no father. She's like a reverse Pinocchio.
Originally posted by Comics Queen
What Strength feats do Billy have? Now what strength feats do Wonder Woman have? If we are going by portrayals against Superman, Wonder Woman has done more lasting harm to Superman than Billy every has. If I'm wrong, disprove me.
Has Wonder Woman ever stalemated Superman in arm wrestling? Has Wonder Woman ever been called Superman's equal in strength and been conceded to have the edge in a straight up physical confrontation? Not to mention that Captain Marvel in the scan is pretty much fresh out of his Post Crisis re-origin which had since been revamped anyway as well as he was not in his right mind.
Diana is a better fighter, has the demeans to depower him via the lasso (asking him who grants his powers ie. Shazam) and is more agile, but physically she's not as strong or as durable as Marvel or Black Adam. As someone who's read every post-crisis Wonder Woman comic to date, I say that pretty comfortably.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankSuperman has stated that Captain Marvel and Diana punch the same in so many words. Wonder Woman in a lower form was stalemating CM in the scan. She also has drawn blood from Superman a couple of times. And Caused Superman lasting harm. Something CM has never done.
Has Wonder Woman ever stalemated Superman in arm wrestling? Has Wonder Woman ever been called Superman's equal in strength and been conceded to have the edge in a straight up physical confrontation? Not to mention that Captain Marvel in the scan is pretty much fresh out of his Post Crisis re-origin which had since been revamped anyway as well as he was not in his right mind.Diana is a better fighter, has the demeans to depower him via the lasso (asking him who grants his powers ie. Shazam) and is more agile, but physically she's not as strong or as durable as Marvel or Black Adam. As someone who's read every post-crisis Wonder Woman comic to date, I say that pretty comfortably.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankThis is very true. Also team 1 ftw.
Wonder Woman isn't as strong as Captain Marvel/Black Adam, though. At least not based on their relationship/portrayal as compared to Superman. Wonder Woman is consistently shown and portrayed to be slightly weaker than Superman physically, whereas Captain Marvel routinely is considered to be his equal in that regard among others. Diana's a far better fighter than Billy and has more options physically, but strength wise, she's not his equal.