Lady shiva vs captain america

Originally posted by Radarock1971
With or without the shield i say it doesnt matter because shes faced deadly masters and learned new techniques from them one by one while cap remained the same

You really think Cap enhanced SSS Mind doesn't let him learn and remains constantly the same. Guy was learning a complete alien art in which Kang stated other other warriors decades to Master.

This is not someone who stays the same and keep's on impressing fighters of Shiva level and impressing them. This is the same to you??

Plus lets not pretend more techniques is the same as better fighter. More knowledgeable yes but Cap isn't like most streets. Enhanced mind, strength, speed which has been compliment ahead of his peers and to being 10 times at that by regulars, as to be even called preternatural at times.

Well then that definitely puts the Super in Super Soldier. Plus on record while Cap is have the advantage at times against Daredevil or Ironfist. Including stalemating Shang Chi himself.

While Shiva either stalemates them or flat out straight up loses.

No by the same i mean a ***** with a shield

Tell me who shiva lost against????

Better question.

When has Shiva ever beaten someone on Cap's level?

Cap'n

well lets see shiva beat the master that trained cat woman
she slso defeated the o sensei who trained richard dragon and bronze tiger
Fought bat man and almost killed him on several occasions
Beat and trained tim drake (robin)
Beat bat girl twice
Killed dozens of martial arts masters
Like i said shiva wins

Ok, now try posting someone on Cap's level.

Originally posted by Radarock1971
well lets see shiva beat the master that trained cat woman
she slso defeated the o sensei who trained richard dragon and bronze tiger
Fought bat man and almost killed him on several occasions
Beat and trained tim drake (robin)
Beat bat girl twice
Killed dozens of martial arts masters
Like i said shiva wins

Seriously a lot of this is "wrong" on Shiva. Big time.

?

Wat is wrong about it?

Other than the fact that Cap would likely beat anyone on the list at least 6/10 in hth?

So your telling me cap can beat the o sensei who trained both of the most formidable martial artists in dc who cap cant beat himself???

You need to read more on shiva before u just say cap is better with no reasoning behind it

You don't have to be a great fighter to train one, just look at boxing or the MMA circut.

Yes i understand what your saying but its different in this case because if im not mistaken he trained them from scratch and taught them everything he knows

So?

So since they knew nothing of fighting before hand and hes trained them from scratch he has to be good and also he has been stated as a master and people have even tried to kidnap him and torture him into revealing his martial arts secrets so with that said hes nice

Radarock1971 do you even read lady shiva. Some of the feats you mentioned Shiva never has done.

It means that he has to be a good teacher, it doesn't mean he's especially skilled at fighting.

"Masters" are a dime a dozen in comics.

Shiva