Originally posted by SimbonI guess you have a point, the little guy often comes through when the chips are down.
Don't rule Daredevil out; remember that, aside from the UN, the most effective attack launched against Tyrant was from that spinster, who fights kind of like Daredevil. With sufficiently powerful nun-chucks, and by striking at Tyrant's weakpoints, a skilled street-leveller just...might be able to succeed where a team of heralds failed...
Originally posted by Omega Vision
And yet the fight between WWH and Sentry is a high showing for both because both characters are super duper epic. durlaugh
Yes it doesn't get anymore super duper then WWH and Sentry, psh who are we to compare Superman, Cyborg Superman, Supergirl and anyone else in DC to them?... 😂
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Well....if he actually beats Henshaw, that's impressive.
He has to beat Henshaw, or the story can't progress.
The theme right now is Doomsday going after all the Superman that appear after the Death of Superman story line.
It's been a while since i've that story line, so i can't tell if Steel was the first to appear, then Eradicator, then Henshaw, then Superboy.
^ Yeah, as you mentioned, DD is offing all the Supermen who appeared in the Reign of the Supermen arc -- seemingly in the order in which they debuted. That means he will likely face off with, and get beaten by, the final version of Superman who appeared in that arc... Superman himself.
...Which also means that everything DD will have done up to that point will be low-balled by the haters, because "Superman ain't dat pouerfal!!!"
Can't wait. ermm
^ I'm cool with Henshaw getting sliced and diced by Arisia, blown up with a planetary blast, etc. Getting overpowered in technopathy was plain ducking fumb. Green Lantern Corps has been awful since Tomasi left. Awful.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
And yet the fight between WWH and Sentry is a high showing for both because both characters are super duper epic. durlaugh
Originally posted by Philosophía
That's never been the case for DC characters on KMC. For example, if current Doomsday keeps this up, and stomps the JLA (Cyborg Superman, Supergirl, Saint Walker and current Jade, among others), but yet Superman defeats him in the end, it won't show how powerful Superman is, it shows how weak Doomsday actually was.
Originally posted by Galan007How in the world do the above observations not apply to Surfer during and post-Annihilation, Nova Prime post-Annihilation, WWH in World War Hulk and after, Thor post-Rulk, Rulk himself, Bor, Thanos in Thanos: Imperative, Zeus post-Chaos War, Sentry during Dark Reign etc.?
Exactly. The same thing was said about the Weaponer in another thread. The dude tools Ganthet, Kyle, John, etc, etc yet a few believe him to still be sub-Surfer level simply because Sinestro ended up beating him. So instead of just admitting that both characters' feats were very impressive, they are both essentially low-balled. After all, Sinestro cannot possibly be Surfer-level and beyond -- therefore him beating Weaponer proves that he [Weaponer] is also inferior to Surfer by proxy, despite owning some of the most powerful Lanterns out there (AND a Guardian.) Amiright?Lovely logic around this place.
The eyes... they be rollin. 🙄
Surfer is definitely better post annihilation. Nova is better, but he's still not beating high heralds, or even quite a few heralds. WWH was a joke, and the story was riddled with PIS. Rulk...........not touching that one. Bor had NO FEATS. Don't know about Thanos. Zeus? What's the problem with Zeus? He's a skyfather, of course he's going to rape Hulk.
Sentry is the most wanked character on this board. We had people claiming he was >Molecule Man.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaOr mabye its because superman is superman?
That's never been the case for DC characters on KMC. For example, if current Doomsday keeps this up, and stomps the JLA (Cyborg Superman, Supergirl, Saint Walker and current Jade, among others), but yet Superman defeats him in the end, it won't show how powerful Superman is, it shows how weak Doomsday actually was.
I don't like using that excuse...but c'mon. With someone like superman you have to expect some ridiculously stupid soloing.
Originally posted by Galan007you're still defending the assemblage of characters that confronted weaponer? i'm not saying he was bad or good, those that fought him in that instance did just as poorly as the great lakes avengers would have done
Exactly. The same thing was said about the Weaponer in another thread. The dude tools Ganthet, Kyle, John, etc, etc yet a few believe him to still be sub-Surfer level simply because Sinestro ended up beating him. So instead of just admitting that both characters' feats were very impressive, they are both essentially low-balled. After all, Sinestro cannot possibly be Surfer-level and beyond -- therefore him beating Weaponer proves that he [Weaponer] is also inferior to Surfer by proxy, despite owning some of the most powerful Lanterns out there (AND a Guardian.) Amiright?Lovely logic around this place.
Originally posted by Estacadoit's because it was a three-piece
DD beating DS shouldn't be a low showing for DS mire like an impressuve feat from DD.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest"Nova Prime sucks, Surfer beat him easily" (as if Surfer isn't just that powerful?). "Odinforce Thor sucks, Rulk beat him" (as if there weren't circumstances?) "Bor sucks, Odinforce Thor beat him" (no feats... how about pushing Odinforce Thor to his limits far worse than the frikkin Destroyer did just several issues prior and shattering Mjolnir out of pure physical durability?).
Surfer is definitely better post annihilation. Nova is better, but he's still not beating high heralds, or even quite a few heralds. WWH was a joke, and the story was riddled with PIS. Rulk...........not touching that one. Bor had NO FEATS. Don't know about Thanos. Zeus? What's the problem with Zeus? He's a skyfather, of course he's going to rape Hulk.Sentry is the most wanked character on this board. We had people claiming he was >Molecule Man.
"T&A suck, Surfer beat em" (as if there weren't circumstances?). "Chaos King sucks, he got beat by Amadeus Cho" (as if he still didn't devour the 616 universe?). "Supergod Herc sucks, he got wrecked by Chaos King" (as if Chaos King wasn't just that powerful and still... Supergod Herc restored the entire universe?). "Ult. Hulk sucks, Ult. Cap knocked him down" (as if Ult. Cap can't possibly be more than a 2-tonner?).
And thanks for unintentionally making my point about WWH and Rulk. "Skrull-Bolt, Mighty+New Avengers, Fantastic Four jobbed, WWH curbstomped them in quick succession" (as if WWH wasn't jsut that powerful?). "WWH sucks, he got wrecked by a Skyfather" (as if Zeus isn't just that powerful). Gimme a break. Surfer got one-shotted by Odin. How exactly does WWH get showered with the haterade by performing better? Of course, he's Hulk, waaah waaah.
"Molecule Man sucks, Sentry beat him" (as if Sentry can't possibly have matter manip that high?). "Terrax sucks, Sentry curbstomped him" (as if Sentry isn't just that powerful?). "Sentry sucks, WWH matched him" (as if WWH wasn't just that powerful?). "Sentry sucks, Thor matched, then killed him" (except that's not true at all?). Of course, he's Sentry, waaah waaah.
Superman/GL fans crying victim about how his feats are downplayed because his foes are lowballed? Join the club. Pretending like they're really the characters getting treated that way, how come nobody else is? Eyes. Be. Rollin.
C'mon now.
Originally posted by Philosophía
That's never been the case for DC characters on KMC. For example, if current Doomsday keeps this up, and stomps the JLA (Cyborg Superman, Supergirl, Saint Walker and current Jade, among others), but yet Superman defeats him in the end, it won't show how powerful Superman is, it shows how weak Doomsday actually was.
Pretty much, though it's been that way for a while.