Vampires vs. Monsters

Originally posted by KingD19
So Hulk trying to protect Betty shows super high amounts of reasoning? No.

Please quote where I said, "Hulk trying to protect Betty shows super high amounts of reasoning"

Because you made that point, you definitely missed mine.

Here's the real point:

"Both (Paul and Emmett) of them were ready to piss all over that decades old treaty, endanger both of their families literally to death, and tear eachother's throat out.

They were both endangering all the lives of their loved ones including those around them. Hulk has reason beyond that: he at least tried his best to protect Betty at all times."

Besides, Jasper wouldnt just calm him down straight out, because he wouldnt know that his power is fueled by pure rage until hes being ripped apart to a choir singing (in a four part harmony) "HULK SMASH!" (yeah, they are a very angry choir)

Originally posted by Pwned
Besides, Jasper wouldnt just calm him down straight out, because he wouldnt know that his power is fueled by pure rage until hes being ripped apart to a choir singing (in a four part harmony) "HULK SMASH!" (yeah, they are a very angry choir)

I agree, fully, with this statement.

Considering what they do to choir-boys, I'd be angry too.

😘

Originally posted by dadudemon
No, what I said.

You just replied with a "nuh-uh." What I said it correct.

But, I'll reply to your posts with "proper" replies:

"Both (Paul and Emmett) of them were ready to piss all over that decades old treaty, endanger both of their families literally to death, and tear eachother's throat out.

They were both endangering all the lives of their loved ones including those around them. Hulk has reason beyond that: he at least tried his best to protect Betty at all times."

So the passive power that he exerts and very rarely outwardly shows that he's using it, is now magically not being used? K. Gotcha. Nice try, but fail.

Umm, she's within mere feet of him when he is raging out. Is it possible that Hulk is much more "intelligent" and reasonable than you're giving him credit for?

So I'll assume he tried to use his powers on the newborns during their fight but it didn't work.

Yes, it's also possible he much less intelligent and reasonable than you're giving him credit for.

Originally posted by Mindset
Lmao, so let me get this straight, with no evidence of Jasper actually using his powers I'm supposed to believe he is? I agree, nice fail. 😂

I just watched the scene: he clearly intervenes. Nice fail/lie.

Originally posted by Mindset
So I'll assume he tried to use his powers on the newborns during their fight but it didn't work.

No, he had no interest in doing so: they all had to be killed. If he calmed them down, they may think too rationally and that would work AGAINST them because they needed their blind rage. You would know that if you watched the film...which I assume you did until now.

Originally posted by Mindset
Yes, it's also possible he much less intelligent and reasonable than you're giving him credit for.

No, he's exactly as intelligent as I am giving him credit for.

Where exactly does Jasper intervene? Which movie are you talking about, because he sure doesn't do anything in Eclipse.

Ummm, if he could control their emotions they wouldn't need to fight them at all...what the what?

No, he's not. 🙂

Originally posted by Mindset
Where exactly does Jasper intervene?

At the part right after they scuffle, obviously. Then they stop, and Emmett refocuses on his reason for jumping across the river to break the treaty: Victoria.

Originally posted by Mindset
Which movie are you talking about, because he sure doesn't do anything in Eclipse.

He sure does. 🙂

Originally posted by Mindset
Ummm, if he could control their emotions they wouldn't need to fight them at all...what the what?

Wrong: they'd still be fighting except calmly. You are aware that they are under orders?

Wait, you forgot about that part, didn't you?

You also forgot that the Cullen's technique is based entirely on them being newborns, uncontrolled, and raging.

Originally posted by Mindset
No, he's not. 🙂

Yes he is. 🙂

He's not as stupid as you make him out to be.

Ang's version has Hulk's IQ at least at the level of a very young child.

He's capable enough to learn that the business end of a tank causes pain and adapting by trying to block the next attack with the tank-turret he had just ripped off the other tank. Though the round went right through as it fired an anti-tank round, he at least tried, shows intelligence.

Then there's the final fight with his father, further [higher] intelligence as Hulk talks/reacts to the situation.

Originally posted by Robtard
Ang's version has Hulk's IQ at least at the level of a very young child.

He's capable enough to learn that the business end of a tank causes pain and adapting by trying to block the next attack with the tank-turret he had just ripped off the other tank. Though the round went right through as it fired an anti-tank round, he at least tried, shows intelligence.

That's a good point. I don't think most humans would have the knowledge, in his body, to think of that.

But...granted...you're combing the smartest mind (maybe second to Mr. Fantastic) with the most linear raging mind. There's bound to be some sort of intelligence jump through.

Originally posted by Robtard
Then there's the final fight with his father, further [higher] intelligence as Hulk talks/reacts to the situation.

Indeed. It's impossible to say that he's just a blind idiot full of rage. That would be "enraged Savage Hulk"...not Ang Lee's Hulk.

Something I just thought of, Hulk is the biggest and strongest of them, right? Naturally, hes the target for Jane to incapacitate really fast. What does pain do to Hulk?

HULK SMASH PUNY VAMPIRE! RAAAAAAAAAGH!

Originally posted by Pwned
Something I just thought of, Hulk is the biggest and strongest of them, right? Naturally, hes the target for Jane to incapacitate really fast. What does pain do to Hulk?

HULK SMASH PUNY VAMPIRE! RAAAAAAAAAGH!

I could have sworn I made that point already. Maybe it was just to RJ. But, yeah, I agree. Jane will just REALLY piss him off if she tries that pain bullshit on Hulk. If she wants to create a Hulk so powerful that he could crack the planet in half with a stomp, she should attack him with her special gifts.

Also, Robtard brought up a good point, earlier.

Couldn't Callisto* create a shockwave and shatter all the vampires? SHE SOLOS! RAWR!

*Yes, I know she's not in this thread.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I could have sworn I made that point already. Maybe it was just to RJ. But, yeah, I agree. Jane will just REALLY piss him off if she tries that pain bullshit on Hulk. If she wants to create a Hulk so powerful that he could crack the planet in half with a stomp, she should attack him with her special gifts.

How do you know Hulk wouldn't get KO'ed by Jane?

All his durability and healing factor won't mean shit. He will be writhing in the worst agony possible on the ground just like any other person, and should pass out if prolonged.

Originally posted by Placidity
How do you know Hulk wouldn't get KO'ed by Jane?

All his durability and healing factor won't mean shit. He will be writhing in the worst agony possible on the ground just like any other person, and should pass out if prolonged.

Just like the "sonic-blasters" which were designed specifically to take him down?

I see inflicting intense Pain on Hulk a worst possible course of action to take against him. He got pissed at the tank and beat it because of the "pain" it was inflicting on him.

Also, Hulk is supposed to be partially immune to psi attacks...but I don't know if he showed that in the movies.

Originally posted by ares834
The guy was more than a physical match for the Thing, was able to withstand Supernova type heat, and could shoot incredibly powerful blasts of electricty. I'm not sure how he is lol dead.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Just like the "sonic-blasters" which were designed specifically to take him down?

Um how is that the same... yes they aren't. Like not even close.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Also, Hulk is supposed to be partially immune to psi attacks...but I don't know if he showed that in the movies.

Don't think so.

Originally posted by marwash22
because he has absolutely no defense for being mentally raped by Jane. 😬

So she inflicts pain... Cool. While she is sitting there doing so Doom throws a lightning bolt at her and does actual damage. Also doesn't Jane's power take some time to work?

Originally posted by dadudemon
At the part right after they scuffle, obviously. Then they stop, and Emmett refocuses on his reason for jumping across the river to break the treaty: Victoria.

He sure does. 🙂

Wrong: they'd still be fighting except calmly. You are aware that they are under orders?

Wait, you forgot about that part, didn't you?

You also forgot that the Cullen's technique is based entirely on them being newborns, uncontrolled, and raging.

Yes he is. 🙂

He's not as stupid as you make him out to be.

You think monsters win anyway so wont even waste the effort.

Originally posted by ares834
So she inflicts pain... Cool. While she is sitting there doing so Doom throws a lightning bolt at her and does actual damage.

Originally posted by ares834
Also doesn't Jane's power take some time to work?

Doom grabs the vamps and breaks them in half.

Huc comes and grinds them into dust.