Bart Allen Vs Nova

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Bart as Impulse figure out how to fly? I know he didn't use it as the adult Flash, but it's the same guy.

Also, the picture used is the adult Bart whilst incarnating the speed force, so that's why we're talking about him. Blame the OP. 😛

Celey: When Galan was talking about Attoseconds....that was Barry. He's not even the fastest Flash. 😐 Wally and Bart are both faster. And even Barry would move faster than Nova can react.

There is no one in the MU who is equal to the Flash in speed under abstract. Hell, Flash has outraced instant teleportation.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Why would Nova start in the air? Unless he's someone who naturally floats. I think they'd start in their natural state, which would be standing on solid ground for Nova.

Concerning the Battlefield
Unless otherwise stated by the thread originator, the standard distance between combatants will be .5 kilometers in line of sight at the onset of battle, and there will be an implied "buzz" to signify the onset of battle. It will be assumed combatants are primed to go at the gun.

Also, all characters, regardless of where the fight takes place, or what universe/medium they are native to, will have full access to their abilities at optimum efficiency as they are depicted in their native universes. It will be assumed that each character fights as they are normally presented regardless of battle locale. This means that, for example, Flash will in fact have SpeedForce abilities if the battle took place in Marvel Manhattan. Battles will always take place on an assumed equal playing field.

"equal playing field"

where did you get this "natural state" thing?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Bart as Impulse figure out how to fly? I know he didn't use it as the adult Flash, but it's the same guy.

Also, the picture used is the adult Bart whilst incarnating the speed force, so that's why we're talking about him. Blame the OP. 😛

Celey: When Galan was talking about Attoseconds....that was Barry. He's not even the fastest Flash. 😐 Wally and Bart are both faster. And even Barry would move faster than Nova can react.

There is no one in the MU who is equal to the Flash in speed under abstract. Hell, Flash has outraced instant teleportation.

ure telling me something I already know.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Concerning the Battlefield
Unless otherwise stated by the thread originator, the standard distance between combatants will be .5 kilometers in line of sight at the onset of battle, and there will be an implied "buzz" to signify the onset of battle. It will be assumed combatants are primed to go at the gun.

Also, all characters, regardless of where the fight takes place, or what universe/medium they are native to, will have full access to their abilities at optimum efficiency as they are depicted in their native universes. It will be assumed that each character fights as they are normally presented regardless of battle locale. This means that, for example, Flash will in fact have SpeedForce abilities if the battle took place in Marvel Manhattan. Battles will always take place on an assumed equal playing field.

"equal playing field"

where did you get this "natural state" thing?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Bart as Impulse figure out how to fly? I know he didn't use it as the adult Flash, but it's the same guy.

Also, the picture used is the adult Bart whilst incarnating the speed force, so that's why we're talking about him. Blame the OP. 😛

Celey: When Galan was talking about Attoseconds....that was Barry. He's not even the fastest Flash. 😐 Wally and Bart are both faster. And even Barry would move faster than Nova can react.

There is no one in the MU who is equal to the Flash in speed under abstract. Hell, Flash has outraced instant teleportation.

Flash was amped by every being on the planet when he outranned instant teleportation. Stop over hyping feats.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The same place you got your "Nova starts out flying" from.

err... right.....

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
ure telling me something I already know.

He lied about some of it.

Originally posted by carver9
He lied about some of it.

im talking about his attosecond comment. ive read some of his posts.
like defending a position he has not even a clue about.

Originally posted by carver9
Flash was amped by every being on the planet when he outranned instant teleportation. Stop over hyping feats.

I hope you're not talking about the Rann incident...

Originally posted by TricksterPriest Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Bart as Impulse figure out how to fly? I know he didn't use it as the adult Flash, but it's the same guy. Also, the picture used is the adult Bart whilst incarnating the speed force, so that's why we're talking about him. Blame the OP. 😛 Celey: When Galan was talking about Attoseconds....that was Barry. He's not even the fastest Flash. 😐 Wally and Bart are both faster. And even Barry would move faster than Nova can react. There is no one in the MU who is equal to the Flash in speed under abstract. Hell, Flash has outraced instant teleportation.

i think pc barry is more formidable.

Given that he overloaded AM's anti-matter canon, that's possible. But Flash is one of the few characters who actually got stronger post-crisis.

Originally posted by carver9
Flash was amped by every being on the planet when he outranned instant teleportation. Stop over hyping feats.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Oh u mean like Weaponer having a good chance of beating Surfer?

😉

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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
im talking about his attosecond comment. ive read some of his posts.
like defending a position he has not even a clue about.

Originally posted by Galan007
If both are fighting 'in character', Weaponer taking 3-4/10 wins isn't really digging, but that's neither here nor there. However, it makes me realize just how desperate you must be getting when you start bringing up other, non-related, debates.

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thats something i pulled out of the Galan book btw. u referenced a non related debate in a recent thread..
:-D

Why are u showing a scan i alrwady know.. ? Im not refering to that..

So is this "speed force" Bart? Any day now prep.

lmfao

everyone else: "bart wins"
celeyhyga17: "nuh uh, nova is just as fast"
everyone else: "novas got no planetary battle speed feats on par with bart"
celeyhyga17: "well ummm did i mention hes got gravity blasts?"
everyone else: "blasts dont matter to a guy who moves in between the tick of a second"
celeyhyga17: "ehhh did i mention nova starts off in the air? so bart cant hit him"
everyone else: "stop being an idiot. nova gets pwned"
celeyhyga17: "nope. he starts in the air so bart cant do anything"
everyone else: "you realize speedsters CAN move through the air right?"
celeyhyga17: "....you guys are STOOPID!!"

keep up the comedy fellas. 😎

Damn all u Flash is god bastiches.. Is it just me or is Flash skyfather level in the forums...?
If I see another Flash is unbeatable thread I think I'm gonna lose my mind..

:-P

Originally posted by Uriel005
What about absolute limit of speed are you not getting. Instant Teleport is still slower than speed force break.

He was amped. During the beginning he was losing... he amped himself to insane levels to accomplish that feat. He will not get that chance to amp here to that level since there isn't an Earth amount of people and super human for him to amp from.

Off topic, I'm glad people finally realize the difference between flying through space at light speed vs actually doing it in a gravitational environment...2 different things if you ask me and it holds no weight that the person can keep up with a true light speedster on a battlefield within an gravitational planet.

As for the fight, my money is on Flash but Nova can pull some wins if he plays his card right.

This is about to be a dumb a** question but I know what a pico second is, nano second, etc, etc... but what in the hell is a atto second? How fast is that?

Originally posted by carver9
This is about to be a dumb a** question but I know what a pico second is, nano second, etc, etc... but what in the hell is a atto second? How fast is that?

But flash is the only character I know of with nano second feats. And Zoom obviously.