Silver Surfer vs Superman (IN CHARACTER)

To my knowledge, Surfer can draw energy from all kinds of space crap, right? Like drawing in ambient cosmic energy and what not.

Originally posted by Miss Maxima
Except one black hole seriously hurt Thanos. Who is quite durable.

Size of the black hole matters though.

The black hole Thanos tanked was two light years wide. Big enough to swallow roughly 500 solar systems. But I doubt the writers are good at math or actually know how black holes work 🙄

Originally posted by vince_slice
Size of the black hole matters though.

The black hole Thanos tanked was [b]two light years wide. Big enough to swallow roughly 500 solar systems. But I doubt the writers are good at math or actually know how black holes work 🙄 [/B]

Originally posted by Nihilist
Why would it ?

Originally posted by batdude123
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Not sure whats so confusing. Surfer has absorbed energy from the ground in order to heal himself up. He can amp using various sources cuz he is a high end energy manipulator. Blackholes dont power him up in the same way the sun does superman. he however can absorb the energy of a blackhole and use it in the same way he can that of stars, the earth etc. they dont power him up by default.

Originally posted by Miss Maxima
If black holes aren't taken seriously because Superman tanked a double one and held one in his hand, then Surfer creating them shouldn't be taken seriously either.

gotta lol at superman holding a blackhole in his hand...even for comic science, that breaks some bar

Originally posted by Nihilist
The difference is Surfer can tank black holes and create them so i dont see your point.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Not sure whats so confusing. Surfer has absorbed energy from the ground in order to heal himself up. He can amp using various sources cuz he is a high end energy manipulator. Blackholes dont power him up in the same way the sun does superman. he however can absorb the energy of a blackhole and use it in the same way he can that of stars, the earth etc. they dont power him up by default.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Where did it state the size of black hole?

It says, "drew everything within two light-years radius"

The black hole was actually two light years in radius, that means the actual diameter of the black hole was four light years. Bigger than I thought.

Originally posted by Miss Maxima
It only takes a collapse of a star to creat a black hole right? Superman has snuffed out stars before. So why can't he collapse one? The ability to create a black hole shouldn't be any great feat if another character's ability to tank them is made a non feat.

Originally posted by vince_slice

It says, "drew everything within two light-years radius"

The black hole was actually two light years in [b]radius, that means the actual diameter of the black hole was four light years. Bigger than I thought. [/B]

Originally posted by vince_slice
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It says, "drew everything within two light-years radius"

The black hole was actually two light years in radius, that means the actual diameter of the black hole was four light years. Bigger than I thought. [/B]

Originally posted by Naija boy
Not sure whats so confusing. Surfer has absorbed energy from the ground in order to heal himself up. He can amp using various sources cuz he is a high end energy manipulator. Blackholes dont power him up in the same way the sun does superman. he however can absorb the energy of a blackhole and use it in the same way he can that of stars, the earth etc. they dont power him up by default.

I never said they did, all I'm saying is the fact that Surfer can absorb energy from a black hole (lawl) in order to power himself up makes using him being in one as a durability feat sketchy at best.

Originally posted by Miss Maxima
That doesn't mean it was two light year's wide. Black Holes can draw light from hundreds of light years away and be as small as a pin.

There's a difference between drawing in "light" and drawing in "everything" as the scan clearly says.

Originally posted by batdude123
I never said they did, all I'm saying is the fact that Surfer can absorb energy from a black hole (lawl) in order to power himself up makes using him being in one as a durability feat sketchy at best.

Not at all. Surfer can absorbs various forms of energy and use them to power himself up. If surfer gets hit by an energy blast, and no indication is given of him absorbing it and using it to amp himself, then the default conclusion is that he tanked it using durability. THe same goes for whe he passes through stars which he can also absorb but many times doesnt.

Originally posted by vince_slice
There's a difference between drawing in "light" and drawing in "everything" as the scan clearly says.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Not at all. Surfer can absorbs various forms of energy and use them to power himself up. If surfer gets hit by an energy blast, and no indication is given of him absorbing it and using it to amp himself, then the default conclusion is that he tanked it using durability. THe same goes for whe he passes through stars which he can also absorb but many times doesnt.

Saying essentially "black holes hurt him until Surfer decides they don't" is ridiculous.

black holes should hurt surfer as the blackhole essentially exerts an enormous pressure on surfer

black hole isn't some ball of energy...it's more like a super powerful vacuum

Originally posted by Miss Maxima
Light is the hardest thing to draw in. Everything else is fodder.

Yup, and the black hole in the scan drew in "everything" including light. So I fail to see your point?