Bisons TK is probably the most annoying of his powers to Kratos though. Considering his track record with telekentic opponents I still have to believe he has some sort of reason why it's not stopped him before. I know he can mind wipe people as well but the thing is both Persephone and Zeus have tried this, and in Zeus case it ended with hope being activated so it's not a wise choice for Bison IMO.
Vega can mind wipe, TK, brain wash, take negative emotions and convert them 2 psychic energies, and processes psychic energy projection. I also don't C what's stopping him from having Rose's psychic powers, as well. He is a real mental power house. I don't C Kratos wining or even getting close without his weapons and magic.
-Kratos' durability feats are not aided by anything if that's what you are asking.
-That was in Chains of Olympus.
-I'm not talking about Herc. Herc's gauntlets did break the the floor (the marble olympus is made of is not ordinary anyway) in an actual cutscene, only in gameplay is it left undamaged, its also only one of two weapons that can break Onyx crystals. I don't feel like elaborating right now on just how durable those things are.
I'm not simply talking about God of War 3 here. I'm talking everything.
Originally posted by CosmicCometTrue he did do some damage to it, and he pulled a piece out in the end, but for a person who "supported the world" and had gauntlets the damage he did to the ground was minimal.
-Kratos' durability feats are not aided by anything if that's what you are asking.-That was in Chains of Olympus.
-I'm not talking about Herc. Herc's gauntlets did break the the floor (the marble olympus is made of is not ordinary anyway) in an actual cutscene, only in gameplay is it left undamaged, its also only one of two weapons that can break Onyx crystals. I don't feel like elaborating right now on just how durable those things are.
I'm not simply talking about God of War 3 here. I'm talking everything.
Kratos (I'm assuming we're just talking h2h with no weapons or anything else) is very tough, but nothing exotic enough to place him over top tiers in SF to the point where they can't damage him. He's a tough brick in this case. Probably low herald.
Of course, he would smash a majority of the cast however.
I only place Kratos as low herald with his equipment.
Again, the marble Olympus is made of is not ordinary. A small pillar made of the stuff was strong enough to support a 1600 ft tall Gaea's weight, which would be several millions of tons. Zeus with a single lightning bolt didn't really do damage to it. The Cestus is used to break something more durable in the form of Onyx crystals later on anyway.
Also, Kratos when he was much weaker in Ghost of Sparta, tanked being inside of a volcano when it erupted. All it did was send him hurtling several miles away and he got up with out a scratch. This eruption also called Atlantis to sink.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
City busting unfortunately, is not even CLOSE to being enough to hurt Kratos. Sorry.Brainwash. Not happening. Kratos mental defenses are excellent, as shown against Persephone.
TK. Ordinary as hell. Every other boss Kratos has faced has had TK.
He is bustin cities with with SOME of his MENTAL POWER. Not all of it. With just half of it, he is going to throw Kratos pass the moon.
No one in GOW is phuckin with Bison on a psychic level. With the drive he can effortlessly maintain control over a dozen people and then some at 1 time.
No one in GOW has psychic power so great that it has to manifest itself in a physical form and has 6 billion people powering it.
You and Nem are sayin this guy is gonna shitstomp characters (for sure at their greatest levels) by takin Kratos's greatest feats and comparin them to these characters greatest feats in their WEAKEST forms.
That is a no no.
That is why we have to give the general version of what character we are using, to be fair to both sides.
Originally posted by CosmicCometThat's what Kratos is without his weapons, brick like.
Probably.I'd place someone like Hulk at low herald.
I would say Hulk would lose against Akuma or stalemate. Hulk has to be hit with a one hitter (like the misogi) like when Iron Man did it, or he'd have to be raging demoned.
Hulk can't touch top tiers as they can warp. However if they don't ko him very early they will be unlikely to win. So he would stalemate or lose.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterKratos (I'm assuming we're just talking h2h with no weapons or anything else) is very tough, but nothing exotic enough to place him over top tiers in SF to the point where they can't damage him. He's a tough brick in this case. Probably low herald.
This is it. I am glad I aint the only 1 who eats a healthy breakfast in the morning. And yes, I am referring to h2h. With weapons O'course he will win
Originally posted by No End N Site
[B]He is bustin cities with with SOME of his MENTAL POWER. Not all of it. With just half of it, he is going to throw Kratos pass the moon.
Ok cool, 'some'. Quantify how much that of that 'some' is and we can get to a reasonable conclusion about how much he can do at full power.
I don't need your weak suppositions. I need facts. Thanks in advance.
No one in GOW is phuckin with Bison on a psychic level. With the drive he can effortlessly maintain control over a dozen people and then some at 1 time.
Control over a dozen people? Very unimpressive. Ares casually mind****ed an entire army. Ares can also create pocket dimensions. Ares is only a mid tier God in the series as well.
No one in GOW has psychic power so great that it has to manifest itself in a physical form and has 6 billion people powering it.
Stop with the meaningless descriptions. Give me feats.
Kratos has also been relatively unaffected by time slowing magic as well btw.
You and Nem are sayin this guy is gonna shitstomp characters (for sure at their greatest levels) by takin Kratos's greatest feats and comparin them to these characters greatest feats in their WEAKEST forms.That is a no no.
Actually, I never made a comment about him shitstomping anyone at their weakest levels. I saw some comments like 'city busting, tk, etc' and noted that these are things that are absolutely mundane as hell and not good against Kratos.
All I'm saying and I know this for sure, is that no one in street fighter physically compares to Kratos other than that one bietch Ingrid supposedly.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Ok cool, 'some'. Quantify how much that of that 'some' is and we can get to a reasonable conclusion about how much he can do at full power.I don't need your weak suppositions. I need facts. Thanks in advance.
Ignorance is bliss I guess...* le sigh*
You can't, seeing as how characters like Ingrid can carry mountains into space at level 0, with no drive.
Bison is usin like .5% to vape cities.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Control a dozen people? Very unimpressive. Ares casually mind****ed an entire army. Ares can also create pocket dimensions. Ares is only a mid tier God in the series as well.
Lulz These are super human assassins. One of the 12 can solo an army. 1 of the 12, survived an encounter with Akuma. Also, Bison can warp like Pyron, worm hole, and can't die without his soul being destroyed.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Stop with the meaningless descriptions. Give me feats.Kratos has also been relatively unaffected by time slowing magic as well btw.
Meaningless? You're just being a silly man. He has all the power in the world lol. He will never run out and Kartos, with all his rage hatred, is just a contributor. Kratos has no way of killing him with no weapons.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Actually, I never made a comment about him shitstomping anyone at their weakest levels. I saw some comments like 'city busting, tk, etc' and noted that these are things that are absolutely mundane as hell and not good against Kratos.
You are not gettin what's being said. It's getting annoying. Some Bison's psychic powers , when generally manifested in a physical form, can bust cities. Kratos has never come up against Psychic power that extreme. Kratos will be thrown out of orbit.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
All I'm saying and I know this for sure, is that no one in street fighter physically compares to Kratos other than that one bietch Ingrid supposedly.
And that's what make you look damn silly and ignorant. None of the SF greats, including Ingrid, have ever been shown at full power. Are they physically on his level at their known levels? No. At their full power? Who knows.
Can I see the video of Ingrid lifting a mountain into space please?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO3voLXsNHs
Look at 5:25. You see those little lights on the left of the arena? Yeah, that's the city of Athens and just one of those pillars can dwarf it. Ares looks much more impressive on a telekinetic scale than pretty much anyone in SF and if he can't stop him I don't see how bison could possibly win.
Oh and Ares explodes right infront of him aswell.