Originally posted by TheGoldenSpy
Can I see the video of Ingrid lifting a mountain into space please?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO3voLXsNHs
Look at 5:25. You see those little lights on the left of the arena? Yeah, that's the city of Athens and just one of those pillars can dwarf it. Ares looks much more impressive on a telekinetic scale than pretty much anyone in SF and if he can't stop him I don't see how bison could possibly win.
Oh and Ares explodes right infront of him aswell.
It wasn't a mountain, it was mountain sized statue that she casually TKed and then rode N 2 space and then 2 the future. It's on youtube sum where. It's her ending.
That vid shows nothing that even comes close 2 Vega's Psychic Powers. Especially since just a sample of it would turn Athens 2 dust.
I'll have to go kill something now.... I never wanted to go looking for anything to do with Ingrid....
Originally posted by No End N Site
Ignorance is bliss I guess...* le sigh*You can't, seeing as how characters like Ingrid can carry mountains into space at level 0, with no drive.
Bison is usin like .5% to vape cities.
You are a rather jumbled individual aren't you?
Where did I mention Ingrid in that portion anywhere? What relevance does she have with that question of quantifiable destruction as it relates to your city busting feat?
Oh well, at least you attempted to answer. '.5%'. Thank you. Now, I realize you won't be able to actually produce a figure resembling this, and this comes as a result of the same suppositions I asked you to avoid, and that I have little reason to actually take your word at face value as you've yet to come across as anything more than a mildly hyperactive git in the sum of your posts, I'll do so anyway.
Unfortunately, .5% means at 100%(--which is 200 times more obviously--), he's only going to be destroying a radius that is a little under 6 times greater(yes, that's right).
This is not enough to bother Kratos sadly. His durability is demonstratively beyond this.
Lulz These are super human assassins. One of the 12 can solo an army. 1 of the 12, survived an encounter with Akuma. Also, Bison can warp like Pyron, worm hole, and can't die without his soul being destroyed.
Meaningless? You're just being a silly man. He has all the power in the world lol. He will never run out and Kartos, with all his rage hatred, is just a contributor. Kratos has no way of killing him with no weapons.
-Who do you speak of? And unfortunately, this mental control also completely pales, Morpheus an unseen God in CoO who was able to put to sleep every living thing on Earth, god or mortal, to sleep.
-Yes. Meaningless. We don't work with titles and idiotic non-derivable ambiguous descriptions like 'all the power in the world lol' (you do realize how noobish/numb-skullish that sounds right?). We work with quantifiable feats. What does 'all the power in the world lol' mean for quantifiable destructive feats?
You seem to be headed towards some sort of cross-universe comparison? Is that what you are going towards? Because once again, I never mentioned anything about Kratos vs Bison specifically, so surely you must be doing this for some sort of cross-verse comparison. What the hell, I'll do so. You have nothing but helpless conjecture anyway. A portion of Apollo's power, (just a handful of supernatural fire), was able to consume an entire island into flames. And Helios for example, has the power to destroy the world if he harnesses the power of the sun. Tell me again about this 'all the power in the world lol' business again. 🙂
You are not gettin what's being said. It's getting annoying. Some Bison's psychic powers , when generally manifested in a physical form, can bust cities. Kratos has never come up against Psychic power that extreme. Kratos will be thrown out of orbit.
No, what is getting annoying is your not understanding that this has nothing to do with Bison, whom I made no mention towards Kratos being able to beat without weapons or stomping everyone in SF which you claimed came from my mouth. No.
What I said, and this remains the case, is that you brought up a single quantifiable instance of city busting, mentioning TK and such, and I commented on these and these alone saying such things would NOT be enough to kill Kratos. Which remains true. The only definitive thing I did say was that physically, no one in Street Fighter matches Kratos. This thread is about Ryu, and my statement would be implying something of that sort that if Ryu punched Kratos as hard as he's able, Kratos would tank it. And by feats, he would.
You escalated with your completely spastic, unsupported fan extrapolations and entertaining what is essentially no limits fallacy, (points I will get to soon) and I am annoyed in myself for humoring you by replying as much as this.
And that's what make you look damn silly and ignorant. None of the SF greats, including Ingrid, have ever been shown at full power. Are they physically on his level at their known levels? No. At their full power? Who knows.
Stop it.
You are not coming off as too bright, your logic does little more than entertain a no limits fallacy due to a typical defensive-impulsive fan mindset.
They work with the feats they do have. They don't get the benefit of the doubt to be put into a confirmable higher tier without a logical, preferably canon-confirmed method of extrapolating up from their highest recorded showings.
Your puzzling method of extrapolation comes as a result of somehow claiming a non-canon's character's physical feat [Ingrid's] somehow translates into what sort of humorous level of TK Bison would be capable of ('flicking' someone into space with his mind). Bunk immediately because she is not canon and any in-game statement relating the two character's abilities is thus also not-canon. Bunk secondly because your psychic feats have consisted NOTHING of what you actually extrapolated to; all you've given has consisted of nothing but psychic control of some supposedly powerful individuals and a feat of destruction, that's it. That's it. Hey, since you failed to support your laughable TK extrapolation, I'll one up you again with an actual existing TK feat that dumps on anything in the SF-verse, e.g. Helios commands the Sun, he keeps it up in the sky without having to look out for it . 🙂
The logic behind your silly point would leave recourse to saying other outlandish things. Like; SF characters should not be compared to any hyper-powerful characters like the Hulk because we don't know their 'true potential' or any of that lame mumbo jumbo.
Kindly shut up. Until we get something past the Street Fighter 3 games, they get what we can confirm for them. Sorry.
-And none of their feats are on par with a guy can is strong enough to overpower people who can hold up the world; like Hercules and Titans.
-None of their feats are on par with a guy who is far more durable than Titans, who themselves are more durable than the Pillar of the World (a large pillar which once held up the weight of the entire world.).
-None of their feats are on par with a guy who fights Gods of which even lower tier ones like Artemis have demonstrated casual lightning timing speeds.
Please reach competency in the future.
Well, I'll post some feats I've seen in both game:
Ryu:
Defeat Sagat with a Hadoken.
Destroy Bison's body.
Harm Akuma.
Beat groups of men. (I think he's holding back, Ryu doesn't kill his opponents, except Bison.)
Cut a waterfall with his Hadoken.
Kratos:
Escaping from Hades on like 3 different occasions.
He held off Atlas' fingers (by far the strongest and largest of the Titans).
He can react to lighting thrown by Zeus. (But I think the lighting that Zeus threw wasn't fast.)
He can react to Hermes the messenger god.
His combat speed isn't that impressive. Peak human at best. (without Hermes' boots that is)
His durability is good. He holds up well to blunt attacks. He can brawl with the likes of Zeus, Hades, The Colossus of Rhodes, Herc and come out fine.
He's capable of picking up an Undead Legionaire and ripping it in two with his bare hands.
Slamming the Hydra's heads.
He also fell thousands upon thousands of feet off mount olympus into the river styx and was unharmed.
Originally posted by CosmicCometWhere did I mention Ingrid in that portion anywhere? What relevance does she have with that question of quantifiable destruction as it relates to your city busting feat?
Oh well, at least you attempted to answer. '.5%'. Thank you. Now, I realize you won't be able to actually produce a figure resembling this, and this comes as a result of the same suppositions I asked you to avoid, and that I have little reason to actually take your word at face value as you've yet to come across as anything more than a mildly hyperactive git in the sum of your posts, I'll do so anyway.
Unfortunately, .5% means at 100%(--which is 200 times more obviously--), he's only going to be destroying a radius that is a little under 6 times greater(yes, that's right).
-Who do you speak of? And unfortunately, this mental control also completely pales, Morpheus an unseen God in CoO who was able to put to sleep every living thing on Earth, god or mortal, to sleep.
-Yes. Meaningless. We don't work with titles and idiotic non-derivable ambiguous descriptions like 'all the power in the world lol' (you do realize how noobish/numb-skullish that sounds right?). We work with quantifiable feats. What does 'all the power in the world lol' mean for quantifiable destructive feats?
No, what is getting annoying is your not understanding that this has nothing to do with Bison, whom I made no mention towards Kratos being able to beat without weapons or stomping everyone in SF which you claimed came from my mouth. No. What I said, and this remains the case, is that you brought up a single quantifiable instance of city busting, mentioning TK and such, and I commented on these and these alone saying such things would NOT be enough to kill Kratos. Which remains true. The only definitive thing I did say was that physically, no one in Street Fighter matches Kratos. This thread is about Ryu, and my statement would be implying something of that sort that if Ryu punched Kratos as hard as he's able, Kratos would tank it. And by feats, he would.
You escalated with your completely spastic, unsupported fan extrapolations and entertaining what is essentially no limits fallacy, (points I will get to soon) and I am annoyed in myself for humoring you by replying as much as this.
They work with the feats they do have. They don't get the benefit of the doubt to be put into a confirmable higher tier without a logical, preferably canon-confirmed method of extrapolating up from their highest recorded showings.
Your puzzling method of extrapolation comes as a result of somehow claiming a non-canon's character's physical feat [Ingrid's] somehow translates into what sort of humorous level of TK Bison would be capable of ('flicking' someone into space with his mind). Bunk immediately because she is not canon and any in-game statement relating the two character's abilities is thus also not-canon. Bunk secondly because your psychic feats have consisted NOTHING of what you actually extrapolated to; all you've given has consisted of nothing but psychic control of some supposedly powerful individuals and a feat of destruction, that's it. That's it. Hey, since you failed to support your laughable TK extrapolation, I'll one up you again with an actual existing TK feat that dumps on anything in the SF-verse, e.g. Helios commands the Sun, he keeps it up in the sky without having to look out for it . 🙂
The logic behind your silly point would leave recourse to saying other outlandish things. Like; SF characters should not be compared to any hyper-powerful characters like the Hulk because we don't know their 'true potential' or any of that lame mumbo jumbo.
Kindly shut up. Until we get something past the Street Fighter 3 games, they get what we can confirm for them. Sorry.
-And none of their feats are on par with a guy can is strong enough to overpower people who can hold up the world; like Hercules and Titans.
-None of their feats are on par with a guy who is far more durable than Titans, who themselves are more durable than the Pillar of the World (a large pillar which once held up the weight of the entire world.).
-None of their feats are on par with a guy who fights Gods of which even lower tier ones like Artemis have demonstrated casual lightning timing speeds.
Please reach competency in the future.
Looks like I have another victim. Rape time!
Ingrid and Bison use the same power.
I have never taken seriously, someone who has done this poorly at comprehending elementary points. Thus I will stop. You no longer deserve highly detailed responses.
Bison's general psychic power in a single use at randomly general levels can vape cities. When that force is applied to a psychic power like TK. He throw Kratos out in space. And will laugh about it immediately afterwards.
Bison's 12 dolls. And Morpheus is like the god of sleep. Him putting people to sleep is not psychic. You lose, Player 2.
Lmao You are doin so poorly right now. All the power in the world means he will NEVER RUN OUT OF POWER. HE IS ETERNAL. He has pool of 6 bill souls. With just 1 (a strong one), he can vape cities. Now do you realize your failure?
So now you're sayin you jumped into discussion not knowin what it was about? lol Whose fault is that? That is clearly what you're sayin. The city bustin was not mentioned as feat that would kill Kratos.
So now we just make stuff up to make ourselves feel good. That's what's hot in the streets? This is what our children have to look forward too?😆
No one is asking for that, but you are ignorant to make sure statements with out knowing all the facts. It's pretty much that. The fact that you think this is okay is really phucked up and says alot about how terrible your logic is. If this were a real debate or a court of law, you would lose, be laughed at, and disbarred
Omfg, that miserable wall o text is just so ignorant and poorly researched that it takes all but of 1 sentence to destroy it. Ingrid (most likely) is not canon, her powers, officially, are. Done...
Has shit to do with "true potential". The characters I am speaking of are intentionally holding back. This equates to them fighting with no hands. So when you make a statement about this character loosin it's just down-right...stupid...not to clarify that that particular version of the character is being defeated at any point. Not, OMFGEEZ KRATOZ KIHLLZ AKUMA! Phuckin' debate scrubs on this forum. I tell'ya. No detail or solid logic at all. You'll just get bodied.
And all that stupid feat shit you mentioned for Kratos is A>B>C logic. He has done none of that shit himself ( I give him WTF beating Chronos's hand) and has only beaten most of these characters cuz the plot required it. Gtfomfl (Get The F**k Outta My Face Lame, in case you didn't know)!
AAAARRRRRRGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! I am done taking your "V" Card! I have spilled my seed in you! Go out and bear my children, now.