Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I take a few days off and this nonsense is still going strong. Let's discuss some facts, though.Fact #1: Gladiator is fully confident unless explicit shown or alluded to not being fully confident. Full confidence isn't some psychological amp; it's only when he doubts himself does his power wane. So adding "full confidence" to a thread with Glads doesn't mean anything special at all outside of the norm per forum rules: full capacity. Pretending it amps him or some other shit is ridiculous. Otherwise all the times Gladiator is NOT said to be at full confidence we're supposed to assume he's what? Only kinda confident? Absurd.
Fact #2: Thor beats Gladiator for the majority normally. Based on their encounters with one another and their own feats, Thor beats Glads for the majority without factoring in amps (in which Thor actually has a legit amp and Gladiator is just at full capacity). Trying to argue this is asinine as an out for blood, prepped Gladiator couldn't even manage to overcome Thor without exploiting the knowledge of his mortal alter ego and the 60 second Mjolnir enchantment - which is nullified for current Thor, anyway. Trying to twist that fight into something it was not - you know who you are - instead of accepting it as Thor obliterating Gladiator once he stopped holding back is just lol worthy.
Fact #3: Thor w/ Power Gem >>> Gladiator. I don't even...WTF. This is common sense. Gladiator would get demolished. End of discussion.
1) is basically impossible logically. Someone who is very confident doesn't mean they are confident to the fullest extent. Also, there is absolutely no proof to suggest that Glads is even very confident most of the time. He may be moderately confident on average. You just can't make up bogus nonsensical rules as they are facts. What happens in forums is not the same as what happens in comics. Gladiator may be always fully confident in forums but he's not always fully confident in comics. People use comic feats (feats where Gladiator is not shown to be fully confident). Fully confident means I can use the best feats or feats greater than the best shown. Nothing less.
2) What happens in comics is not what happens in a forum fight. Here, characters will fight to their best ability (use speed when necessary). A normal Thor has no chance against a Gladiator fighting to the best of his ability (even if he's moderately confident).
3) Serious non holding back Thor >>>Thor with PG (for the first hour of combat). There is no proof to show that Thor was even 2x stronger than his normal non holding back self with the PG. Glads fully confident>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thor with PG (for the first hour).
And you are forgetting that Glads can take away the PG if he wants and use it for himself. As if he would need it.