Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Seriously, this is spite. All joking aside, it's obvious to nearly everyone here that Gladiator is getting his ass kicked by Thor. Without the gem, it's a bit closer, but c'mon. This idea that fully confident Gladiator is like Silver Age Superman or some other crap is just that.Crap.
The only thing I am going to say in this thread (so its pointless for you all to reply back) is... Thor wins this. Not because he is more powerful but because Gladiator is an arrogant biatch that boast throughout every fight that he is in.
If he actually amp himself to his planet crushing, moving and reacting at hyper speed, swimming in stars and tanking hits from tyrant, walking through Vulcans and Binary attacks "self"... he would cream ANY version of Thor but again, his arrogance is his downfall so even then he could possibly lose if we change his attitude.
Gladiator is his superior and even with the gem, he can match him physically and could possily end this with a stalemate or like some people said, use his superior speed and already superior strength to take the gem.
So overall... due to Glads being a retard, Thor wins. Put someone else mind in that powerful body, someone like Cyclops, Thor will get that a** handed to him more times than not.
Jake, do not respond to my post.
Originally posted by carver9
The only thing I am going to say in this thread (so its pointless for you all to reply back) is... Thor wins this. Not because he is more powerful but because Gladiator is an arrogant biatch that boast throughout every fight that he is in.If he actually amp himself to his planet crushing, moving and reacting at hyper speed, swimming in stars and tanking hits from tyrant, walking through Vulcans and Binary attacks "self"... he would cream ANY version of Thor but again, his arrogance is his downfall so even then he could possibly lose if we change his attitude.
Gladiator is his superior and even with the gem, he can match him physically and could possily end this with a stalemate or like some people said, use his superior speed and already superior strength to take the gem.
So overall... due to Glads being a retard, Thor wins. Put someone else mind in that powerful body, someone like Cyclops, Thor will get that a** handed to him more times than not.
Jake, do not respond to my post.
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Originally posted by carver9Gladiator wasn't arrogant when he took on Thor in Thor's own book. He went for the kill before Thor could even assess the situation and when he did he easily wrecked Glads. the only thing Glads had going for him was this and the fact Thor reverted to his human self.
The only thing I am going to say in this thread (so its pointless for you all to reply back) is... Thor wins this. Not because he is more powerful but because Gladiator is an arrogant biatch that boast throughout every fight that he is in.If he actually amp himself to his planet crushing, moving and reacting at hyper speed, swimming in stars and tanking hits from tyrant, walking through Vulcans and Binary attacks "self"... he would cream ANY version of Thor but again, his arrogance is his downfall so even then he could possibly lose if we change his attitude.
Gladiator is his superior and even with the gem, he can match him physically and could possily end this with a stalemate or like some people said, use his superior speed and already superior strength to take the gem.
So overall... due to Glads being a retard, Thor wins. Put someone else mind in that powerful body, someone like Cyclops, Thor will get that a** handed to him more times than not.
Jake, do not respond to my post.
Boom shakalaka.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Gladiator wasn't arrogant when he took on Thor in Thor's own book. He went for the kill before Thor could even assess the situation and when he did he easily wrecked Glads. the only thing Glads had going for him was this and the fact Thor reverted to his human self.Boom shakalaka.
Lololhahaha...wtf.
Ok, I said I wasn't going to post any more but da**.
Quan, I tought you said that wasn't a good fight to use since it was another Glads from a different timeline?
For all we know, that could have just been a copy of the real thing but not as "perfect" (identicle copy) as the real deal.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Also, before I forget:So, you think a fully confident non-arrogant Gladiator could take on Power Gem Thor, Warrior's Madness Thor, King Thor, Rune King Thor, etc?
I knew someone was going to say this... I could edit my post. Didn't mean the skyfathers but warrior madness Thor? Why not? Super Skrull and Drax had a good showing against him. Glads is physically above both. PG Thor... Glads would match but I already gave you the conditions on how Glads could take these Thors.
Originally posted by carver9The real deal lost to masterson thor so I think this isn't something to piss and moan about.
Lololhahaha...wtf.Ok, I said I wasn't going to post any more but da**.
Quan, I tought you said that wasn't a good fight to use since it was another Glads from a different timeline?
For all we know, that could have just been a copy of the real thing but not as "perfect" (identicle copy) as the real deal.
Thor's too powerful for Glads. Their strength is equal with the durability and speed advantages for Glads but the hammer is the equalizer of justice.
Originally posted by carver9
I knew someone was going to say this... I could edit my post. Didn't mean the skyfathers but warrior madness Thor? Why not? Super Skrull and Drax had a good showing against him. Glads is physically above both. PG Thor... Glads would match but I already gave you the conditions on how Glads could take these Thors.
Good.
I still horribly disagree with you, but not as much as I would have if you did think he could take KT and RKT. sneer
Originally posted by carver9
The only thing I am going to say in this thread (so its pointless for you all to reply back) is... Thor wins this. Not because he is more powerful but because Gladiator is an arrogant biatch that boast throughout every fight that he is in.If he actually amp himself to his planet crushing, moving and reacting at hyper speed, swimming in stars and tanking hits from tyrant, walking through Vulcans and Binary attacks "self"... he would cream ANY version of Thor but again, his arrogance is his downfall so even then he could possibly lose if we change his attitude.
Gladiator is his superior and even with the gem, he can match him physically and could possily end this with a stalemate or like some people said, use his superior speed and already superior strength to take the gem.
So overall... due to Glads being a retard, Thor wins. Put someone else mind in that powerful body, someone like Cyclops, Thor will get that a** handed to him more times than not.
Jake, do not respond to my post.
facepalm
This board rumor about "full confidence" needs to stop. Gladiator doesn't walk around operating at half power. I've never seen it being described it as such. Gladiator is at full capacity every day (Not taking into account the holding back a lot of heroes do etc.) It's simply when he faces beings that should logically be beneath him, perform above what he assumes is there limit, or someone messes with him psychically, that his confidence wanes. That's when his power starts dropping. It's why his confidence isn't an issue when he faces Hulk, Thor etc. but it did start to wane in that scene with Richards. Nothing he was doing was effective; he started having doubts etc.
As a matter of fact, show me one high herald that Gladiator has faced and confidence was an issue. Hell, I'll take a risk and allow mid or low heralds.
The rest isn't even worth the time. If you want to start comparing feats, let's have a go. You're always fun Carver. But, don't bet on winning.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
facepalmThis board rumor about "full confidence" needs to stop. Gladiator doesn't walk around operating at half power. I've never seen it being described it as such. Gladiator is at full capacity every day (Not taking into account the holding back a lot of heroes do etc.) It's simply when he faces beings that should logically be beneath him, perform above what he assumes is there limit, or someone messes with him psychically, that his confidence wanes. That's when his power starts dropping. It's why his confidence isn't an issue when he faces Hulk, Thor etc. but it did start to wane in that scene with Richards. Nothing he was doing was effective; he started having doubts etc.
As a matter of fact, show me one high herald that Gladiator has faced and confidence was an issue. Hell, I'll take a risk and allow mid or low heralds.
The rest isn't even worth the time. If you want to start comparing feats, let's have a go. You're always fun Carver. But, don't bet on winning.
Lol... I'm not whining rage.lol
We have discussed this a thousand times and we have different opinions on the matter.
Originally posted by carver9
Naah, especially when we have Surfer and Bill geting one shotted by Tyrant but it taking 4 to 5 shots to drop Gladiator. Then his feats of power is also something that holds weight towards my argument.
Does anyone have the scans on hand? Bill was not one shotted and neither was Surfer. IIRC, Gladiator tried to match Tyrant's energy output and that took a lot out of him. He then went down from another eye beam and a punch. Bill took a downward strike and a punch, which IIRC did not knock him out. I don't remember exactly what happened with Surfer but it wasn't a one hit knock out.
What feats of power does Gladiator have to support your stance? He once busted a planet with a few feats? Please, Thor has strength feats that utterly shit on anything Gladiator has ever done and you don't see me claiming his far stronger. Still, if one had to pick the one with the superior strength, it'd be Thor.
You're taking a high end showing and trying to apply it to an utterly ridiculous theory. Gladiator's strength is not unlimited. It doesn't increase just because he thinks his bulge looks bigger one day. He walks around at full power everyday. It's when he encounters strange situations that his confidence decreases, and in turn so do his powers.