Thor w/power gem vs Gladiator (full confidence)

During the Black Celestial arc when the Fantastic Four and co. went to the future, did the time bubble effect (The thing that froze everyone) extend throughout the entire Universe? IIRC, the transport Reed created emitted a field that protected them from the effects up to a dozen feet away or so I believe.

I'm just wondering because when Gladiator attacks Thor, we don't see Thor with one of the harnesses and we never see him with one after. Even when his teleports Reed and co. to Earth. Actually, I'm not sure if we ever see Thor with one of those harnesses. If my memory's right, Thor has one hell of a speed feat under his belt even though I don't think it makes much sense.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Once again, you don't know what laughing is, do you? Gladiator cracked a smile once and might have smirked twice throughout the fight. That doesn't equate to him playing around. Not when we have 3 scenes where he seems enraged and the dialogue clearly showed us that he wanted Eric dead.

This is some desperate shit. Gladiator's an arrogant prick who underestimated Masterson and assumed he had been defeated. That doesn't mean he didn't want him dead, or wasn't fighting seriously.

He used only strength and speed against Masterson, so what? Eric outright forgot that he could summon lightning with Mjolnir.

Yes, Eric attacked from behind but he didn't press the advantage, giving Gladiator time to recover and he only wanted to get his attention. Eric even said that he was were to talk about peace, cracked jokes throughout the fight etc. Hell, if anyone wasn't taking this fight seriously, it was Masterson.

Lol.

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
During the Black Celestial arc when the Fantastic Four and co. went to the future, did the time bubble effect (The thing that froze everyone) extend throughout the entire Universe? IIRC, the transport Reed created emitted a field that protected them from the effects up to a dozen feet away or so I believe.

I'm just wondering because when Gladiator attacks Thor, we don't see Thor with one of the harnesses and we never see him with one after. Even when his teleports Reed and co. to Earth. Actually, I'm not sure if we ever see Thor with one of those harnesses. If my memory's right, Thor has one hell of a speed feat under his belt even though I don't think it makes much sense.

Thor was sped up as well... it was even mentioned during the comic. If anyone got a speed feat out of it, it was Gladiator because Glads was able to perceive them (while moving at hyper speed) and still take it to Thor and fight on his level (even though he received a speed increase).

weeeellll...the way i see it, Glads with full confidence punches thor w/power gem and does shit and his confidence goes down exponentially thus we see thor violating gladiator so bad that it isnt funny.

Originally posted by carver9
What scan have I brought up but never showed you?

Originally posted by carver9
Thor was sped up as well... it was even mentioned during the comic. If anyone got a speed feat out of it, it was Gladiator because Glads was able to perceive them (while moving at hyper speed) and still take it to Thor and fight on his level (even though he received a speed increase).

yeah, thor was still within reed's field effect. glads was operating at hyperspeeds to catch up. once he DID catch up though, i always just thought he was also in the field effect. we know because when they paused everyone was still moving at relatively regular speeds. not sure why glads would be excluded from the field effect unless they all had on some sort of equipment except him. can't recall off-hand.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor was sped up as well... it was even mentioned during the comic. If anyone got a speed feat out of it, it was Gladiator because Glads was able to perceive them (while moving at hyper speed) and still take it to Thor and fight on his level (even though he received a speed increase).

Really, where? Just curious because it would clear things up.

I know Gladiator had a nice speed showing but as Leo pointed out, Gladiator would also be in the field effect seeing as Thor didn't have any equipment on him, if the field of effect stretched out that far and it didn't in at least one point.

Originally posted by leonidas
yeah, thor was still within reed's field effect. glads was operating at hyperspeeds to catch up. once he DID catch up though, i always just thought he was also in the field effect. we know because when they paused everyone was still moving at relatively regular speeds. not sure why glads would be excluded from the field effect unless they all had on some sort of equipment except him. can't recall off-hand.

I know the field effect stretch out for a short distance -#338- but Thor was pretty distant from the ship. At one point, he even teleports them to Earth while his behind the moon with Gladiator, and we still see no gear.

I think it would make sense if the field effect extended even further because when Gladiator incomes he only says "shadows" of beings moving at incredible speed, and comments on them being invisible. Yet, later on, he points out that his nearly exhausted from constantly moving at hyperspeed.....

srug

Edit: I just got the issue, and Gladiator talks about how his nearly exhausted from at moving at hyper speed and soon would return to his normal level. So I guess that his regular operating speed is much lower than hyper speed, and he actively adjusts himself to those levels which are outside his comfort zone similar to Superman. But then we have the problem of Thor not having any equipment shown, so...

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Really, where? Just curious because it would clear things up.

I know Gladiator had a nice speed showing but as Leo pointed out, Gladiator would also be in the field effect seeing as Thor didn't have any equipment on him, if the field of effect stretched out that far and it didn't in at least one point.

I know the field effect stretch out for a short distance -#338- but Thor was pretty distant from the ship. At one point, he even teleports them to Earth while his behind the moon with Gladiator, and we still see no gear.

I think it would make sense if the field effect extended even further because when Gladiator incomes he only says "shadows" of beings moving at incredible speed, and comments on them being invisible. Yet, later on, he points out that his nearly exhausted from constantly moving at hyperspeed.....

srug

Edit: I just got the issue, and Gladiator talks about how his nearly exhausted from at moving at hyper speed and soon would return to his normal level. So I guess that his regular operating speed is much lower than hyper speed, and he actively adjusts himself to those levels which are outside his comfort zone similar to Superman. But then we have the problem of Thor not having any equipment shown, so...

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yeah, i recall the whole thing being about as clear as mud.

wtf to this thread....thor sure as hell does not need the PG here

Originally posted by leonidas
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yeah, i recall the whole thing being about as clear as mud.

Lol, yea. I'm still confused about how Thor was able to operate at those speeds without any gear. Did Walt shoe-in Thor's greatest speed feat ever right under our noses?

Wouldn't put it past the sneaky old bastard.

Originally posted by bbrem123
wtf to this thread....thor sure as hell does not need the PG here

I've been wondering how this thread has made it this far for a while now.

Originally posted by leonidas
yeah, thor was still within reed's field effect. glads was operating at hyperspeeds to catch up. once he DID catch up though, i always just thought he was also in the field effect. we know because when they paused everyone was still moving at relatively regular speeds. not sure why glads would be excluded from the field effect unless they all had on some sort of equipment except him. can't recall off-hand.

I can only post one scan at a time but read here...

Read what Glads tell the FF along with Thor.

Gladiator matched them.

Ill be back with more proof.

http://img361.imageshack.us/i/63428720os6.jpg/

And this happens before Glads bust in the room fighting Thor. Read Glads words please and then let's not even bring up the fact that during this entire issue Glads was bossting his speed up to hyper speed levels. He even assisted Reed with the computer and bossted his speeds up ye again to those levels for HOURS and admitted this (stating that him increasing his speed for so long has become tiresome).

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5560524

No one's debating Gladiator moved at hyper speed. He did so during at least some occasions but that would mean Thor moved at that level as well. I don't think we see the harness on Thor even once. Definitely not during and after the fight with Kallark. So take that as you will.

srug

Never understood how Gladiator can be exhausted before moving at hyper speed and then nearly exhausted after moving at hyper speed for an extended period. The most likely answer is just exaggeration/hyperbole on his part. His stamina clearly wasn't drained.

Originally posted by leonidas
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yeah, i recall the whole thing being about as clear as mud.

Naah, he had a speed increase... I posted the scans proving this.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No one's debating Gladiator moved at hyper speed. He did so in at least some points but that would mean Thor moved at that level as well.

Never understood how Gladiator can be exhausted before moving at hyper speed and then nearly exhausted after moving at hyper speed for an extended period. The most likely answer is just exaggeration/hyperbole on his part. His stamina clearly wasn't drained.

Gladiator stated that everyone in the room speed was increased when he xrayed in the room. Have a question. Was that the first time Thor and Glads met?

Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator stated that everyone in the room speed was increased when he xrayed in the room. Have a question. Was that the first time Thor and Glads met?

Okay, and? That's part of the problem. Without the gear on, Thor would have to be moving at hyper speed.

Yes.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Okay, and? That's part of the problem. Without the gear on, Thor would have to be moving at hyper speed.

Yes.

Wasn't the main function of the gear was to aid them with their durability moving at those tremendous speeds? If I am right, Thor wouldn't need that gear.

Durability? What? Where did you get that from? The harnesses allowed them to operate at regular speeds -relative to them- as the rest of the Universe was basically frozen. In short, either you manipulated time, or you moved so fast that it didn't matter.

Originally posted by carver9
Naah, he had a speed increase... I posted the scans proving this.

neither rage nor i questioned this. it's an impressive speed feat for glads, no doubt--personally i think it's his best one.

the issue was with thor and the field. not sure how far it stretched. while he was battling thor, i always just thought he was within the field itself since no one seems to really have gear on to make THEM move at hyperspeed. glads also trailed the ship at various points and needed to keep up with it. at those times he was OUTSIDE the field.

i don't think it's a speed feat for thor, in all honesty. if we say that, don't we need to say EVERYONE--reed and ben, etc--were also moving unaided at those speeds? or did we see them all specifically wearing gear? can't recall and REALLY don't wanna go look. it just seems to me if we say EVERYONE was in the field range, it makes more sense to me, unless there is sure proof otherwise. which maybe there is. shrug