Superman with GL Ring vs Thanos

Started by quanchi11231 pages

Originally posted by Allankles
What? Adjectives? Last I checked that was part of grammar. I said DS was a god of death, in the context of what he represented to Kirby. I said, he embodies concepts that overlap those of death, nothing more need be said on that matter.

To say he is a "god of death" is not some sort of accolade that I'm heaping onto him, which is how you seem to be looking at this.

I said it before, this isn't anything radical. Mythology is full of gods that embody broad concepts that overlap onto the territories of other gods in the same pantheon. Eos and Appolo. Hel and Odin. Ra and Horus, and on and on.

No one is saying he's the embodiment of death, however, the concepts he embodies may well overlap with certain aspects of death, so that death worshipers are [b]also honoring him in their prayers. [/B]

Darkseid isn't a god of death. Never has been before and from where it stands now I doubt that will ever happen in the future. Sure adjectives are a part of grammar but it's the entire basis for your arguments. You string them together to where it sounds really neat but when you break it down it doesn't prove really anything other than one vague statement to the next.

What do these gods have to do with how you've tried painting Darkseid here ? Black Racer is the personification of death with the new gods so calling Darkseid a death god is really nonsensical.

So what ? Darkseid kills people so what ?

Originally posted by Philosophía
Obtuse quotient.

Quanchi has it in spades, and I'm glad to see he agrees.

How easily amused you are.

You're good at making involuntary jokes.

Originally posted by Philosophía
You're good at making involuntary jokes.
And you're so talented at locating them.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thanos has never done anything with his shields up (maybe talk).
That is to say he even manages to get them up in the first place.
he's like the uss enterprise: shields are always "on"

Originally posted by psycho gundam
he's like the uss enterprise: shields are always "on"

...no they're not.

Unless you were being sarcastic. mmm

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Anyone have that scan of Superman going into a sorrowful rage as he blasts into Command-D bunker in FC 6? Because that's what Thanos is going up against.

This is what you're talking about?

http://img717.imageshack.us/f/thisisit1.jpg/
http://img23.imageshack.us/i/thisisit2k.jpg/
http://img691.imageshack.us/i/thisisit3f.jpg/

So Superman's little heat-vision which barely did any collateral damage is supposed to be more impressive than this blast which did this much collateral damage?

The same blast that belonged to the Maker who according to Gladiator was the most powerful being in the universe?

And here is Thanos getting up after surviving the blast without any serious injuries:

http://img821.imageshack.us/i/thanoslives.jpg/
http://img7.imageshack.us/f/thanoslives2.jpg/

Yeah, I say (and (spoiler) what I'm going to say here is absolute fact) that Thanos tanks whatever Superman throws at him, regardless of Supe's mental state.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
This is what you're talking about?

http://img717.imageshack.us/f/thisisit1.jpg/
http://img23.imageshack.us/i/thisisit2k.jpg/
http://img691.imageshack.us/i/thisisit3f.jpg/

So Superman's little heat-vision which barely did any collateral damage is supposed to be more impressive than this blast which did this much collateral damage?

The same blast that belonged to the Maker who according to Gladiator was the most powerful being in the universe?

And here is Thanos getting up after surviving the blast without any serious injuries:

http://img821.imageshack.us/i/thanoslives.jpg/
http://img7.imageshack.us/f/thanoslives2.jpg/

Yeah, I say (and (spoiler) what I'm going to say here is absolute fact) that Thanos tanks whatever Superman throws at him, regardless of Supe's mental state.


Superman's blast is more thin and concentrated. The other blast resembled an atomic bomb (hugh wide area).

Also, Isn't Thanos immune to permanent death? If so, then you can't say he survived (could have died momentarily) without any serious injuries like he didn't receive any serious injuries. Wolverine can survive as well and not have any serious injuries (after he heals) but that doesn't mean he didn't first have any serious injuries.

No one is arguing whether Superman can kill Thanos permanently but rather can he ko him (or temp kill him) before Thanos kos or kills him.

Lastly, energy projection durability is not the same as blunt force trauma durability. Thanos is an energy absorber and an energy channel-er. That is why he can take mega blasts and yet get rocked by sufficient blunt force power (like Thor's hammer).

Command-D Bunker was heavily fortified, and Superman, unlike Gladiator or Thanos, is much more precise and judicious in avoiding collateral damage.

You really think he's going to kill the innocent civilians under the ALE? 😬

And really? You're going to argue that Maker was the most powerful being in the universe based on Gladiator? 😂 Not to mention she had very little control of her power and was insane. Using her as a benchmark is suspect. Hell, Thanos himself said they needed to keep her body, but not her mind, alive because it was the one thing keeping her from regaining her full power.

And thank you for finding the scans. 👆

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman's blast is more thin and concentrated. The other blast resembled an atomic bomb (hugh wide area).

Also, Isn't Thanos immune to permanent death? If so, then you can't say he survived (could have died momentarily) without any serious injuries like he didn't receive any serious injuries. Wolverine can survive as well and not have any serious injuries (after he heals) but that doesn't mean he didn't first have any serious injuries.

No one is arguing whether Superman can kill Thanos permanently but rather can he ko him (or temp kill him) before Thanos kos or kills him.

Lastly, energy projection durability is not the same as blunt force trauma durability. Thanos is an energy absorber and an energy channel-er. That is why he can take mega blasts and yet get rocked by sufficient blunt force power (like Thor's hammer).

he wasnt immune to death back then

I'm going out on a limb here. What exactly does it take to kill or KO Thanos?

Hell, can he die by the spear of destiny? I really want an answer to this question. ermmhappy

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I'm going out on a limb here. What exactly does it take to kill or KO Thanos?

Hell, can he die by the spear of destiny? I really want an answer to this question. ermmhappy

by marvel's cosmic rules, he cant be killed, but he can be sent to oblivion. presumably, anythign more powerfull than death itself can also destroy him.

KOing is much easier of course.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I'm going out on a limb here. What exactly does it take to kill or KO Thanos?

Hell, can he die by the spear of destiny? I really want an answer to this question. ermmhappy

Killing current Thanos is impossible unless the person can somehow supersede Death. Knocking out Thanos is possible, but it's going to take a lot of power to do that.

Odin, who casually one-shotted the Silver Surfer, couldn't KO Thanos after a prolonged fight and after taking out his Gungnir. The fight easily shows how far above Thanos is from high herald and how tough it is to KO him. People like to low ball this feat, but it was a massive durability feat for Thanos (especially when compared to how Silver Surfer did), and show's he has one of the strongest chins out there.

So you don't think he can die by the spear of destiny? ermmhappy I'd take a moment to think about that one. 😗

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
So you don't think he can die by the spear of destiny? ermmhappy I'd take a moment to think about that one. 😗

I don't know much about the Spear so I didn't comment on it obviously. But thanks for ignoring everything else.

You ignored me. I asked what you thought it took to KO or kill him. You gave me feats, I was asking for an estimate.

We know he's tough. What does it take to do the job?

Something >= Marvel's Death to kill him, something significantly less to KO him, I figure. Based on what he has endured, it will take a lot to render Thanos unconscious.

Originally posted by vince_slice
Killing current Thanos is impossible unless the person can somehow supersede Death. Knocking out Thanos is possible, but it's going to take a lot of power to do that.

Odin, who casually one-shotted the Silver Surfer, couldn't KO Thanos after a prolonged fight and after taking out his Gungnir. The fight easily shows how far above Thanos is from high herald and how tough it is to KO him. People like to low ball this feat, but it was a massive durability feat for Thanos (especially when compared to how Silver Surfer did), and show's he has one of the strongest chins out there.

Actually, Odin one shotting SS was a low showing for SS.
And part of Thanos power is mystical in nature whereas Surfer's is only cosmic (scientific).

Also, the Thanos Odin fight was PIS.

Lastly, energy projection durability is not the same as blunt force durability.

And Drax killed Thanos. Drax is below Death.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You ignored me. I asked what you thought it took to KO or kill him. You gave me feats, I was asking for an estimate.

We know he's tough. What does it take to do the job?

I answered what it would take to kill him, and it's the same answer everyone else is giving, you need something that can supersede Death. I didn't know presenting durability feats was irrelevant in helping to determine how much a character can tank before being KO'd 🙄

Originally posted by h1a8
Actually, Odin one shotting SS was a low showing for SS.
And part of Thanos power is mystical in nature whereas Surfer's is only cosmic (scientific).

Also, the Thanos Odin fight was PIS.

Lastly, energy projection durability is not the same as blunt force durability.

And Drax killed Thanos. Drax is below Death.

Drax temp killed a weaker Thanos. Thanos came back and then killed him. Did you even read thanos imperative or are you just wiking everything like usual.