Originally posted by zopzop
Quick question, what year did this Bor as Creator God retcon take place in?I'll have to look up the other pantheons and their creation stories in Marvel. This should be fun.
Bor drew out the seed, and planted the World Tree; Thor #619:
World Tree explanation; Thor #616.
Take those as you will.
I know, which is why I wasn't a 100% sold on it like the rest but Fraction's take matches up with the story. The World Seed, the tree of light, all of it's the same. There's definitely truth to it. At least some. I wager the myth comment was to leave enough ambiguity/doubt to justify different takes. That's the problem with the Asgardians. So many damn takes. I almost wish for a retcon similar to Morrison's for the New Gods.
Originally posted by the ninjak
I thought Cthon created the vampire race back in Conan days.
According to the latest take, Odin did.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I know, which is why I wasn't a 100% sold on it like the rest but Fraction's take matches up with the story. The World Seed, the tree of light, all of it's the same. There's definitely truth to it. At least some. I wager the myth comment was to leave enough ambiguity/doubt to justify different takes.According to the latest take, Odin did.
Incredible, so according to Marvel, Bor is the Creator God of 616 reality.
So Bor = TOAA? It seems like Odin (at least, if not the other skyfathers) really are abstract level beings.
Originally posted by zopzop
Incredible, so according to Marvel, Bor is the Creator God of 616 reality.So Bor = TOAA? It seems like Odin (at least, if not the other skyfathers) really are abstract level beings.
He didn't create reality but he did draw out the World See using magic, which grew into the World Tree, the Cosmic Axis of reality soon after the dawn of creation.
Two very different things.
Originally posted by zopzop
Odin created vampires? How does this take into account the fact that for the past 20+ years the formula for creating vampires or banishing them from the face of reality was found in the Darkhold?When was this stated?
the whole thing is a cluster****. marvel cosmology at its best... 😬
Originally posted by zopzop
Odin created vampires? How does this take into account the fact that for the past 20+ years the formula for creating vampires or banishing them from the face of reality was found in the Darkhold?When was this stated?
He didn't create the being that would become the first vampire, but his sacrifice of blood gave it life and power. It became one of the undead and the first vampire. At least, that's how I understood it.
Thor #5.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He didn't create reality but he did draw out the World See using magic, which grew into the World Tree, the Cosmic Axis of reality soon after the dawn of creation.Two very different things.
How is that different from creating reality? Before the World Tree, what did reality consist of? Chaos? That's what Creator Gods do, created Order from primordial Chaos.
In one of those other scans explaining the World Tree, it said each world represents it's own fully formed universe. Midgard, aka Earth 616, is the "prime" earth/universe. Bor created the 616 universe.
It's different because reality was already formed. I however assume that it was extremely chaotic and without much order. He definitely had a huge hand in the creation process, and so you could call him a creator God, but we have no idea how much of his power had to do with it. Probably little after the seed was drawn out.
mhmm I can see why you'd come to that conclusion. Still, saying he "created" it is something I'm not too comfortable with. Most people would assume he willed it into existence or something.
Whatever, we'll learn more of this in the next arc. Galactus is supposedly connected to the World Seed somehow.
Originally posted by leonidasTruthfully neither has done enough to know the true extent of their powers, any outcome is supposition.
bull.crap.
cool, but where?
again, cool, but where?
hmm, now if that is true, THAT is your best point. but we still have no real idea how powerful gaea is in relation to cyttorak, so it's kinda meaningless.
Originally posted by CosmicComet😬. For one its a common question considering Cyttorak really had not done anything of note.
Oh look.Its BBZ regurgitating phrases and refrains of others he's read around the forum again.
Just to spite you zues stomps cyttoraks ass for having no feats. That make you feel better?
