Originally posted by -Pr-
You claiming that he needed help, without proof, doesn't really hold up.I know all about Gladiator and Cannonball. What I meant was:
When you say the things you say about Superman, you're basically doing the equivalent of me saying Cannonball beat Gladiator, or that Colossus stalemated him. It's the same thing.
Huh? He didn't do it by himself so he must of needed assistance. It really doesn't matter because my point wasn't to downplay the feat, it was to prove that he doesn't have unlimited strength just like Gladiator or any other character under Galactus doesn't.
If he said Gladiator, Thor, Superman, Sufer, etc... had unlimited strength, I would have told him reasons on why they didn't. It had nothing to do with Superman in general.
Originally posted by carver9
Huh? He didn't do it by himself so he must of needed assistance. It really doesn't matter because my point wasn't to downplay the feat, it was to prove that he doesn't have unlimited strength just like Gladiator or any other character under Galactus doesn't.If he said Gladiator, Thor, Superman, Sufer, etc... had unlimited strength, I would have told him reasons on why they didn't. It had nothing to do with Superman in general.
i think he was stating he has potentially unlimited strength, i mean he's shown to be as strong as he needs to be, albeit with certain incarnations....oh and that u have the tendency to lowball
Originally posted by Sin I AM
i think he was stating he has potentially unlimited strength, i mean he's shown to be as strong as he needs to be, albeit with certain incarnations....oh and that u have the tendency to lowball
So basically, what he or you is saying is that he doesn't need a Sundip... he can exceed the cap of his strength without it? How about this... he could have moved War World during the imperiex saga without the amp? Is this true?
People think I lowball on ALL characters... I just speak the truth and some hate it. Their character isn't as powerful as they think that they are, its just that plain and simple.
Originally posted by carver9
Huh? He didn't do it by himself so he must of needed assistance. It really doesn't matter because my point wasn't to downplay the feat, it was to prove that he doesn't have unlimited strength just like Gladiator or any other character under Galactus doesn't.If he said Gladiator, Thor, Superman, Sufer, etc... had unlimited strength, I would have told him reasons on why they didn't. It had nothing to do with Superman in general.
Why do you keep bringing it up then?
Originally posted by carver9
So basically, what he or you is saying is that he doesn't need a Sundip... he can exceed the cap of his strength without it? How about this... he could have moved War World during the imperiex saga without the amp? Is this true?People think I lowball on ALL characters... I just speak the truth and some hate it. Their character isn't as powerful as they think that they are, its just that plain and simple.
Except that you'e missing the point.
Superman does have dynamic strength, that raises him above base levels. His cap has never been quantified.
Second, he might have been able to move Warworld without a sundip. Why? Because he didn't get the sundip to move Warworld, so your argument is flawed.
You can't prove otherwise.
Lastly, you DO lowball. That's not opinion, that's actual fact, becuase you do it so much to such a concentration that any argument to the contrary has no standing whatsoever.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Why do you keep bringing it up then?Except that you'e missing the point.
Superman does have dynamic strength, that raises him above base levels. His cap has never been quantified.
Second, he might have been able to move Warworld without a sundip. Why? Because he didn't get the sundip to move Warworld, so your argument is flawed.
You can't prove otherwise.
Lastly, you DO lowball. That's not opinion, that's actual fact, becuase you do it so much to such a concentration that any argument to the contrary has no standing whatsoever.
😠 I can tell, its going to be one of those nights.
Pr, I did the same for Glad and "explained" why he doesn't have unlimited strength. You are right, its hard to say that a character have a cap when his power source is right above his head but you kind of missed my point.
I don't think I low ball. I give reasons on why I think one character can defeat the other and the reasons I give helps my argument.
Another thing, even though Thor, Supes, Surfer, and Glads doesn't have a cap on their strength, they still aren't physically stronger than Prime, Zeus, Kurse, etc... etc, so there must be SOMETHING there (cap) preventing their average strength from being in a tier equal to the people above.
Pr, no one has unlimited strength. That is my main argument this entire time... low balling aside.
Originally posted by carver9
😠 I can tell, its going to be one of those nights.Pr, I did the same for Glad and "explained" why he doesn't have unlimited strength. You are right, its hard to say that a character have a cap when his power source is right above his head but you kind of missed my point.
I don't think I low ball. I give reasons on why I think one character can defeat the other and the reasons I give helps my argument.
Another thing, even though Thor, Supes, Surfer, and Glads doesn't have a cap on their strength, they still aren't physically stronger than Prime, Zeus, Kurse, etc... etc, so here must be SOMETHING there (cap) preventing their average strength from being in a tier equal to the people above.
Pr, no one has unlimited strength. That is my main argument this entire time... low balling aside.
and yet you keep bringing up other points, trying to sneak them in alongisde your other argument. why?
Originally posted by carver9
Huh?Like what Pr? Please show me what you mean because I didn't single Superman out.
I wasn't talking about Superman.
i was talking about stuff like "the reasons i give helps my argument". It doesn't in most cases.
I don't mean to be mean, carver, but i feel that in the last few years, i've been more than patient. even badabing agrees with me.
Originally posted by -Pr-
I wasn't talking about Superman.i was talking about stuff like "the reasons i give helps my argument". It doesn't in most cases.
I don't mean to be mean, carver, but i feel that in the last few years, i've been more than patient. even badabing agrees with me.
I agree with that, you have... I have seen you outright put people in their place and once ignored, they got banned or either went on a final warning but what is it that I have said in here for you to even bring that up? I just think some of the times you point me out for nothing sometimes or you basically misunderstand me until I explain myself. Lately, the only thing me and you have been going back and forth about is Glads.
I know you can tell sometimes when I just outright avoid trying to debate against you because it leads to something not so good.
Originally posted by carver9
I agree with that, you have... I have seen you outright put people in their place and once ignored, they got banned or either went on a final warning but what is it that I have said in here for you to even bring that up? I just think some of the times you point me out for nothing sometimes or you basically misunderstand me until I explain myself. Lately, the only thing me and you have been going back and forth about is Glads.I know you can tell sometimes when I just outright avoid trying to debate against you because it leads to something not so good.
Only so you can come back and start again days/weeks later. uhuh
Originally posted by -Pr-
Only so you can come back and start again days/weeks later. uhuh
Omg... just like I said... "one of those night". Pr, I don't think I lowballed anyone in a long time honestly and especially tonight. I really don't even know what brought up all of this. I forgot what we were debating about or against.
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