Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Probably, yeah. As would a bloodlusted Thor and Surfer be all things considered.
Like I said.
Originally posted by The Nuul
SS can be higher than HH if he wanted for a change instead of being a pussy or became pissed. Just like Supes.Those two are at the very top of HH. If they would stop ****ing around with Thor, he could join them also.
Originally posted by carver9
Hhhmmm,Why did he need the aid of a GL to move a planet?
Why did it take the entire kryptonian race to put the moon back in orbit?
Why did it take Wondy, MM, and Supes to pull a moon?
Why did it take Wondy, Supes, and MM to move Earth?
Originally posted by carver9_
Hhhmmm,Why did he need the aid of a GL to move a planet?
[QUOTE=13294823]Originally posted by carver9
[B]Hhhmmm,Why did he need the aid of a GL to move a planet?
Why did it take the entire kryptonian race to put the moon back in orbit?
Why did it take Wondy, MM, and Supes to pull a moon?
Why did it take Wondy, Supes, and MM to move Earth?
Those are all viable examples but the ones I gave are also equally as viable.What is the median of 1/3 of the moon and black hole feats which is basically a point or singularity of 'infinite' mass. His median for his showings in terms of strength becomes infinite.
Why did it take the entire kryptonian race to put the moon back in orbit?
Why did it take Wondy, MM, and Supes to pull a moon?
Why did it take Wondy, Supes, and MM to move Earth? [/B][/QUOTE]_
Those are all viable examples but the ones I gave are also equally as viable.What is the median of 1/3 of the moon and black hole which is basically a point or singularity of 'infinite' mass. His median becomes infinite.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
on average their about equal, both have ridiculously high and low showings...supermans feat dwarfs kallarks only because he makes less appearances
he's had enough appearances to get a gauge of his power. clark's are better because they're better, not because he has more of them.
On average, Superman is better than Gladiator. The comics support that.
Also, carver, stop lowballing, trolling and ignoring context.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Probably, yeah. As would a bloodlusted Thor and Surfer be all things considered.
That can be said about ANY character. When push comes to shove, any character can go beyond their potential. That's why Spiderman is capable of holding up skyscrapers... that's why Wolverine can sometimes bouce through Hulk attacks (also bounced through Thors), that's why Colossus gained enough power to walk through Proteus, a planetary level threat and knock his a** out.
ALL characters have this ability, especially heros (look at the blue marvel and hyperion fight).
Originally posted by -Pr-
he's had enough appearances to get a gauge of his power. clark's are better because they're better, not because he has more of them.On average, Superman is better than Gladiator. The comics support that.
Also, carver, stop lowballing, trolling and ignoring context.
Omg... I'm not doing any of that... I'm proving FACTS.
Where are you getting this from?
Originally posted by carver9
That can be said about ANY character. When push comes to shove, any character can go beyond their potential. That's why Spiderman is capable of holding up skyscrapers... that's why Wolverine can sometimes bouce through Hulk attacks (also bounced through Thors), that's why Colossus gained enough power to walk through Proteus, a planetary level threat and knock his a** out.ALL characters have this ability, especially heros (look at the blue marvel and hyperion fight).
That they can become Trans-leveler High Herald +?
Sure potential is nice and all, but...
Superman
Silver Surfer
Thor
Are considered to be the top three High Heralds in comics, generally, and when either of them get pushed, they have the feats to support them being > High Heralds.
Originally posted by -Pr-
he's had enough appearances to get a gauge of his power. clark's are better because they're better, not because he has more of them.On average, Superman is better than Gladiator. The comics support that.
Also, carver, stop lowballing, trolling and ignoring context.
I concede that he's better, but they are in the same class....youve got to atleast give me that 😛
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
That they can become Trans-leveler High Herald +?Sure potential is nice and all, but...
Superman
Silver Surfer
ThorAre considered to be the top three High Heralds in comics, generally, and when either of them get pushed, they have the feats to support them being > High Heralds.
😕
I want you to look at the 3 you've named and imagine what I am going to say next.
Do that for me Jake.
Originally posted by carver9
Omg... I'm not doing any of that... I'm proving FACTS.Where are you getting this from?
No you weren't.
I got it from your posts.
You were lowballing and ignoring context.
Let me spell it out for you:
Originally posted by carver9
Hhhmmm,Why did he need the aid of a GL to move a planet?
Why did it take the entire kryptonian race to put the moon back in orbit?
Why did it take Wondy, MM, and Supes to pull a moon?
Why did it take Wondy, Supes, and MM to move Earth?
Prove he needed Lantern's help. And while you're at it, why don't you remind everyone why they were moving the planet in the first place? It's ok, i will. Because Starbreaker was moving it toward the sun.
That's ignoring context. And lowballing.
The kryptonian race thing was during Robinson's run, and like most parts of it, was a low showing, as it was well below his average. And iirc, there were extenuating circumstances.
That's lowballing.
As for the last three:
Because there were using the lasso? Because three people can get done what two or even one person could get done, but quicker?
Pick one. That's trolling, because you're just picking out instances with no other reason than to make a character look bad.
And we're still waiting for these mythical gladiator feats you keep going on about.
Originally posted by The Nuulthor kinda sucks now i agree and have said that lots of times, but thor angry has done better against the celestials than anyone in the herald class, and oneshotted zelia, so maybe current thor just isn't written as angry as he was before
If they would stop ****ing around with Thor, he could join them also.
And off topic to the lulz factor I briefly entertained...
I will definitely say that current Thor hasn't been beastly in the way of current feats. My opinion is that Asgard - and Thor - are more grounded on Earth, which kind of restricts him from his top tier level of showings. If Astonishing Thor remains cosmic based, and if Fraction can do something worthy in Mighty Thor and Fear Itself, we'll probably see some more impressive stuff from him. All the stuff that made Classic Thor pretty epic doesn't happen as often in today's Marvel comics, imo.
Originally posted by -Pr-
No you weren't.I got it from your posts.
You were lowballing and ignoring context.
Let me spell it out for you:
Prove he needed Lantern's help. And while you're at it, why don't you remind everyone why they were moving the planet in the first place? It's ok, i will. Because Starbreaker was moving it toward the sun.
That's ignoring context. And lowballing.
The kryptonian race thing was during Robinson's run, and like most parts of it, was a low showing, as it was well below his average. And iirc, there were extenuating circumstances.
That's lowballing.
As for the last three:
Because there were using the lasso? Because three people can get done what two or even one person could get done, but quicker?
Pick one. That's trolling, because you're just picking out instances with no other reason than to make a character look bad.
And we're still waiting for these mythical gladiator feats you keep going on about.
Huh?
I wasn't lowballing, I was showing him that characters DOESN'T have unlimited strength. I already showed you feats. I also showed you him treating Heralds like children. What is it you are looking for?