Gun Kata Blade versus Selene the bullet curver

So here we go......Blade spends 5 years training with John Preston. Preston teaches Blade everything there is to know about Gun Kata.

Selene, it turns out that she can slow time down with the heart/adrenaline thing, so she spends five years with the Fraternity. Fox and the others teach her everything there is to know about bullet curving.

The five years are up. Blade has all his vampire hunting skills, in addition to Gun Kata skills that rival Prestons. Selene retains her death dealer skills, in addition to bullet curving skills on par with Fox and Wesley.

The two face off in a gunfight to the death. The fight takes place at night in Nakatomi plaza. The plaza is deserted, fully powered and fully lit. Blade starts out on the ground floor, Selene on the roof. They must find each other and kill.

Blade is armed with two Glock 9mm loaded with UV rounds. Selene is armed with two Beretta 9mm loaded with silver nitrate ammo. They both have infinite ammo.

Who wins?

Selene became immune to Sunlight in the end didn't she so the UV rounds won't do much.

Blade doesn't even have his sword???

Selene has high speed manuevre feats and now bullet bending.

Gun kata can't fight what it can't see.

Selene 9/10

Bullet bending destroys the very concept of Gun Kata. Selene in a stomp.

Selene with not many problems

Originally posted by the ninjak
Selene became immune to Sunlight in the end didn't she so the UV rounds won't do much.

Blade doesn't even have his sword???

Selene has high speed manuevre feats and now bullet bending.

Gun kata can't fight what it can't see.

Selene 9/10

Originally posted by Nephthys
Bullet bending destroys the very concept of Gun Kata. Selene in a stomp.

you gave Selene the adrenaline boost on top of her vampire stats... murderstomp.

More to it than that.

Selene shots the gun from point A. The bullet curves. The bullet arrives at point B, where Blade is. Nothing really changes, it's just that the bullet happens to curve between point A and B instead of flying in a straight line.

Bullet curving is better at range while Gun Kata is more often up close. If Blade gets up close, odds are in his favor. Just the opposite if they are 20ish feet apart.

Originally posted by marwash22
you gave Selene the adrenaline boost on top of her vampire stats... murderstomp.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
More to it than that.

Selene shots the gun from point A. The bullet curves. The bullet arrives at point B, where Blade is. Nothing really changes, it's just that the bullet happens to curve between point A and B instead of flying in a straight line.

Bullet curving is better at range while Gun Kata is more often up close. If Blade gets up close, odds are in his favor. Just the opposite if they are 20ish feet apart.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
More to it than that.

Selene shots the gun from point A. The bullet curves. The bullet arrives at point B, where Blade is. Nothing really changes, it's just that the bullet happens to curve between point A and B instead of flying in a straight line.

Bullet curving is better at range while Gun Kata is more often up close. If Blade gets up close, odds are in his favor. Just the opposite if they are 20ish feet apart.

I believe this has been debated to death...In Equilibrium it's quite clearly stated that Gun Kata is to do with trajectory...Not destination
A trajectory is THE PATH A MOVING OBJECT FOLLOWS through space as a function of time.

Given that bullet bending can go from anything from a straight shot to a full 360 degree curve then it becomes impossible to predict.

Regardless...This obviously isn't Blade's only skill and he's vastly stronger and faster than Preston is. Unfortunately Selene would still kick his ass.

Originally posted by jaden101
I believe this has been debated to death...In Equilibrium it's quite clearly stated that Gun Kata is to do with trajectory...Not destination
A trajectory is THE PATH A MOVING OBJECT FOLLOWS through space as a function of time.

Given that bullet bending can go from anything from a straight shot to a full 360 degree curve then it becomes impossible to predict.

Regardless...This obviously isn't Blade's only skill and he's vastly stronger and faster than Preston is. Unfortunately Selene would still kick his ass.

And this point was also murdered in the course of those discussions.

Quite clearly, the debate is over: further perpetuations of "bullet bending ruins gun kata" is misplaced for those that participating in those discussions, which includes you, Robtard, RJ, myself, Placidity, and a couple of others.

There is no debate. It was settled.

I don't get it! Are you agreeing with us or not!

Bullet bending completely goes aganst Gun Kata because whereas you may aim for teh head and the Gun Kata guy will respond to that the bullet will end up coring through his crotch and he'll look like a fool! Like a FOOL!

Or she could just shoot him around a corner.

Originally posted by dadudemon
And this point was also murdered in the course of those discussions.

Quite clearly, the debate is over: further perpetuations of "bullet bending ruins gun kata" is misplaced for those that participating in those discussions, which includes you, Robtard, RJ, myself, Placidity, and a couple of others.

There is no debate. It was settled.

More than just a river in Egypt then yeah?

Just because you stop shouting at the brick wall doesn't mean the brick wall won the argument.

Oh man.

Originally posted by jaden101
More than just a river in Egypt then yeah?

Exactly, so stop swimming in it. 🙂

Originally posted by jaden101
Just because you stop shouting at the brick wall doesn't mean the brick wall won the argument.

You don't have to be THAT hard on yourself, man.

I stand by this, especially the last part:

Selene shoots the gun from point A. The bullet curves. The bullet arrives at point B, where Blade is. Nothing really changes, it's just that the bullet happens to curve between point A and B instead of flying in a straight line.

Bullet curving is better at range while Gun Kata is more often up close. If Blade gets up close, odds are in his favor. Just the opposite if they are 20ish feet apart.

I'm not impressed by the counter argument. Gun kata is the act of saying "oh look, he's aiming his gun in X direction, that means the bullet will hit me in my right shoulder. -dodge accordingly- Curving the bullet means that despite aiming the barrel at his shoulder, it'll curve and hit his chest.

Yes, I would agree that at point blank range bullet curving would be pointless due to the short travel time, but they're using guns, which are ranged weapons.

WTF difference does it make if the bullet curves on the way to it's target? If Selene is standing at point A and fires on Blade, who is at point B, the bullet still starts and ends exactly where it would if she had fired it in a straight line (traditional trajectory.)

If anything, bullet curving gives Blade even more time to use Gun kata. If the bullet is curved, it takes that much longer to arrive at it's target. the shortest distance between two points is a straight line, not an arced one.

Selene has two pistols. Preston used Gun kata to avoid being hit by twentyish automatic rifle wielding cops. If Blade is as good as Preston (and the OP suggests that he is), then using Gun kata to avoid being hit by one person wielding two pistols is a cakewalk.

But then again, Selene is way faster than those guys were. Bullet curving will not win this, if anything her speed will. She'd be better off firing in a straight line and using her speed.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I'm not impressed by the counter argument. Gun kata is the act of saying "oh look, he's aiming his gun in X direction, that means the bullet will hit me in my right shoulder. -dodge accordingly- Curving the bullet means that despite aiming the barrel at his shoulder, it'll curve and hit his chest.

Yes, I would agree that at point blank range bullet curving would be pointless due to the short travel time, but they're using guns, which are ranged weapons.

I don't think you read the counter argument.

Lemme see if I can find it...