CHARACTER RULING THREAD - Suggestions

Started by King Kandy18 pages

Originally posted by -Pr-
See, I'd disagree with you on that, so I'd have to talk to Badabing and see what he thinks.

I think its worth discussing before we just impose a rule on it. I base my view on the many statements he made during the arc afterwards where he stated he could use certain powers, but would run the risk of becoming insane like he was before. Which to me is pretty clear that if he really needed to, he could still use those powers. And at the end where he kills his son by time travel, he mentions that "that way lies madness" but he had no other choice in the situation.

not just the fact that he's theoretically capable but the fact that he actually acknowledges that he could revert to that state at any time if he didn't care about resisting.

Originally posted by chomperx9
we need some kind of ruling on folks giving characters upgrades that dont exist.
Originally posted by -Pr-
We already do. You get banned for it eventually.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
If there's a rule against making too many threads giving characters amps/upgrades/equipment/powers/etc they don't normally have,
Is that what Chomper was asking?

I read it as simply that Chomper was annoyed with posters claiming that characters were more powerful due to a supposed 'upgrade' that never actually occurred.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I think its worth discussing before we just impose a rule on it. I base my view on the many statements he made during the arc afterwards where he stated he could use certain powers, but would run the risk of becoming insane like he was before. Which to me is pretty clear that if he really needed to, he could still use those powers. And at the end where he kills his son by time travel, he mentions that "that way lies madness" but he had no other choice in the situation.

not just the fact that he's theoretically capable but the fact that he actually acknowledges that he could revert to that state at any time if he didn't care about resisting.

But since the Full Capacity rule doesn't overrule personality, just plot, wouldn't he still not access those powers as a non-insane Genis?

Originally posted by King Kandy
I think its worth discussing before we just impose a rule on it. I base my view on the many statements he made during the arc afterwards where he stated he could use certain powers, but would run the risk of becoming insane like he was before. Which to me is pretty clear that if he really needed to, he could still use those powers. And at the end where he kills his son by time travel, he mentions that "that way lies madness" but he had no other choice in the situation.

not just the fact that he's theoretically capable but the fact that he actually acknowledges that he could revert to that state at any time if he didn't care about resisting.

I honestly think it goes back to what Smurph said about J'onn and Fernus, but I am hoping to go through every point in the thread with Badabing at some point, and we won't make any declarations without discussing it at length.

Originally posted by Existere
Is that what Chomper was asking?

I read it as simply that Chomper was annoyed with posters claiming that characters were more powerful due to a supposed 'upgrade' that never actually occurred.

I thought that's what he was talking about.

Yeah, that's my reading too.

Ah, I read it as giving them upgrades they don't normally have, which would essentially change the character drastically to the point where it ceases being that character.

Originally posted by Existere
But since the Full Capacity rule doesn't overrule personality, just plot, wouldn't he still not access those powers as a non-insane Genis?

Well my point is that he does access them, when facing opponents he can't beat without them. Like his son Ely. He may be reluctant to but he is capable and willing under the right circumstances.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Well my point is that he does access them, when facing opponents he can't beat without them. Like his son Ely. He may be reluctant to but he is capable and willing under the right circumstances.
Well, that's a different discussion as he doesn't automatically bridge that gap between willing to use said powers and not willing to due to the Full Capacity rule. It would be dependent on the versus match itself.

OK i probably just didn't express myself clearly. The point I was originally trying to make, was that people pose the division as if there was some actual depowerment that means later Genis' can't replicate his feats. Yes he wouldn't use them in all circumstances, but he CAN if it was a match that required them.

Thor combat speed, what should it be at standard? Because from what I seen consistently he not near the level people try and make him out to be. His traveling speed is fast, but that seem mostly his hammer.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Thor combat speed, what should it be at standard? Because from what I seen consistently he not near the level people try and make him out to be. His traveling speed is fast, but that seem mostly his hammer.

The full capacity rule should clear that up.

and people also saying Surfer can still fly without the board when ive only seen it happen once. he has the thing for a reason. no im not going by the damn movie saying it gives him his powers, ive seen surfer take action without being on the board. but he does need it to travel.

I really don't care what comes from this thread. As long as people remember that Batman wins and Hulk is the strongest, I'm good. sneer

😛

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The full capacity rule should clear that up.

no, that does not clear it up. Because my question is do we go by the outliners the very rare feats that he done few to any times, or he consistent showings.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
no, that does not clear it up. Because my question is do we go by the outliners the very rare feats that he done few to any times, or he consistent showings.
When has he failed to compensate for speed ?

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
no, that does not clear it up. Because my question is do we go by the outliners the very rare feats that he done few to any times, or he consistent showings.

Yes, it does. It's not PIS when he uses it, nor is it OOC. It's part of what makes Thor Thor. And it's not one off plot device power, either.

Thor, and everyone else, fights to the best of their abilities without plot or PIS.

I also suggest we have some back up modding for the mods that troll in the Batman and Hulk vs threads. as much as these threads get spammed and trolled every day, we dont need any additional fanboy spamming, serious wise or joke wise. the same rules should apply to everyone no matter what word is bolded under the name. If spamming is not allowed in other character threads but its allowed on the more popular character threads, than you are encouraging others to spam as well in other threads.

Like right now for example, maybe im trolling right now, why ? well because it has been allowed in other threads like mentioned above, so that gives me the right to do it here. see my point ?

I think we all can make a difference here as long as we put our minds straight on what is best for all of us equally instead of individually.

@Chomper

I disagree this is a community of posters who have posted together for years. I don't want this place to devolve into a stricter atmosphere.

Most of the batman wins or hulk wins are obviously jokes and should be treated as such. In other words lighten up.

I think we can all tell the difference between joking and serious posts in most cases anyways.

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Jokes help take the edge off.

Originally posted by chomperx9
I also suggest we have some back up modding for the mods that troll in the Batman and Hulk vs threads. as much as these threads get spammed and trolled every day, we dont need any additional fanboy spamming, serious wise or joke wise. the same rules should apply to everyone no matter what word is bolded under the name. If spamming is not allowed in other character threads but its allowed on the more popular character threads, than you are encouraging others to spam as well in other threads.

Like right now for example, maybe im trolling right now, why ? well because it has been allowed in other threads like mentioned above, so that gives me the right to do it here. see my point ?

I think we all can make a difference here as long as we put our minds straight on what is best for all of us equally instead of individually.

No. If someone misbehaves, you report them. Backseat modding will get you punished as much as the person committing the offence.

Originally posted by quanchi112
@Chomper

I disagree this is a community of posters who have posted together for years. I don't want this place to devolve into a stricter atmosphere.

Most of the batman wins or hulk wins are obviously jokes and should be treated as such. In other words lighten up.

I think we can all tell the difference between joking and serious posts in most cases anyways.

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Jokes help take the edge off.

😆 cant believe someone bought that