Re: Rank DC MMAs
Originally posted by Supermutant
Rank the following combatants in terms of mma skill and ability.Cassandra Cain
Bronze Tiger
Batman Bruce
Lady Shiva
Black Canary
Red Hood Jason
Batman's Dick
Connor Hawke
lady shiva
cassandra cain
bronze tiger
batman bruce
batman's dick
black canary
connor hawke
red hood jason
Originally posted by optic_blast!!!You already shitted on your on points. Cain Velasquez just a Gorrila? He spent most of his life training in one of the oldest forms of combat weestling striking is not his stick if he werent a good wrestling Cheick Kong would have beat him standing. Anderson Silva, Gsp, Bj Penn, Fedor, Jose Aldo, Frankie Edgar, Brock Lesnar, Rampage all champs or former champs have trained in some form of combat since they were young teenagers ATLEAST. You think some talentless Gorrila with little background in fighting can just come in and ko these guys? Possible but 9/10 they destroy said gorrila in one way or another. You proved you know jack squat about mma
so you cant disprove my points? because you know i am right now get lost jerk
Originally posted by iceman24567
You already shitted on your on points. Cain Velasquez just a Gorrila? He spent most of his life training in one of the oldest forms of combat weestling striking is not his stick if he werent a good wrestling Cheick Kong would have beat him standing. Anderson Silva, Gsp, Bj Penn, Fedor, Jose Aldo, Frankie Edgar, Brock Lesnar, Rampage all champs or former champs have trained in some form of combat since they were young teenagers ATLEAST. You think some talentless Gorrila with little background in fighting can just come in and ko these guys? Possible but 9/10 they destroy said gorrila in one way or another. You proved you know jack squat about mma
as i said before just because at some point or another they went and took some leasons doesnt mean they can be described as martial artists, i mean your averege street thug could take couple boxing leasons it doesnt make him a boxer
overall when i see a fight i look at how the fighter fights, when i see most of them fight i dont see any elements of trained martial arts fighting, look at cain look at juniour look at the no good talantless brock lasner ... they just overpower there way with heavy fists and indurance thats it, yes many of them got some wrestling background but so does every freakin person on earth i mean at some point almost every person on earth took some wrestling or boxing leasons so now what? every human being is a trained fighter?
as i said before i dont want fighters to do acrobatic stunts like jackie chan or jet lee thats not fighting but what i want to see is well placed blows, speed, defence, and overall combined skills that actually represent the world of martial arts, what those guys represent is the world of fighting yes but what they represent is all wrong because people like cain or juniour dos santos are very rare most people that will try to just fight like that will lose its due to there endurance and very powerful punches they manage to dominate but not skills
and to tell you the truth i am not that impressed with fedor, he throws way too many wild punches trying to get the early knock out he forgot about his ground game he adapted himself a new strategy which is ko the opponent right away but when he meets up someone who can take his punches .... you saw him vs antonio
Originally posted by Q99
Not too long before Cass came along and stole his thunder 🙂When he first came out they pushed him hard, but that eased up a bit. He is definitely in the 'good enough to provide a tough fight to anyone,' category like Canary and current Dick, but I have trouble ranking him among the very top fighters.
shrug
i said nothing to the contrary, though i would put him above Canary or Dick.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't think Batman ever said that, Nightwing said something which basically amounted to him believing Connor was more skilled than Bruce... and Batman grumbled.
i could be remembering it wrong, i dunno...
but it IS you, so i'm not sure. mmm
Originally posted by -Pr-
shrugi said nothing to the contrary, though i would put him above Canary or Dick.
i could be remembering it wrong, i dunno...
but it IS you, so i'm not sure. mmm
I'm always right, that's just one of the many reasons why I am universally loved and adored on KMC. I also have good teeth. 😎
Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
as i said before just because at some point or another they went and took some leasons doesnt mean they can be described as martial artists, i mean your averege street thug could take couple boxing leasons it doesnt make him a boxeroverall when i see a fight i look at how the fighter fights, when i see most of them fight i dont see any elements of trained martial arts fighting, look at cain look at juniour look at the no good talantless brock lasner ... they just overpower there way with heavy fists and indurance thats it, yes many of them got some wrestling background but so does every freakin person on earth i mean at some point almost every person on earth took some wrestling or boxing leasons so now what? every human being is a trained fighter?
as i said before i dont want fighters to do acrobatic stunts like jackie chan or jet lee thats not fighting but what i want to see is well placed blows, speed, defence, and overall combined skills that actually represent the world of martial arts, what those guys represent is the world of fighting yes but what they represent is all wrong because people like cain or juniour dos santos are very rare most people that will try to just fight like that will lose its due to there endurance and very powerful punches they manage to dominate but not skills
and to tell you the truth i am not that impressed with fedor, he throws way too many wild punches trying to get the early knock out he forgot about his ground game he adapted himself a new strategy which is ko the opponent right away but when he meets up someone who can take his punches .... you saw him vs antonio
Originally posted by optic_blast!!!What you are saying makes zero sense and proves you hav we no clue what you are talking about Brock Lesnar is a talented wrestler stand up is second to his wrestling he has to train stand up its part of mma same with Cain hes a national champ stand up is second in his game they didnt take wrestling classes they were divison one champs you moron. Why dont you actually learn about the guys in the sport before trash talking
as i said before just because at some point or another they went and took some leasons doesnt mean they can be described as martial artists, i mean your averege street thug could take couple boxing leasons it doesnt make him a boxeroverall when i see a fight i look at how the fighter fights, when i see most of them fight i dont see any elements of trained martial arts fighting, look at cain look at juniour look at the no good talantless brock lasner ... they just overpower there way with heavy fists and indurance thats it, yes many of them got some wrestling background but so does every freakin person on earth i mean at some point almost every person on earth took some wrestling or boxing leasons so now what? every human being is a trained fighter?
as i said before i dont want fighters to do acrobatic stunts like jackie chan or jet lee thats not fighting but what i want to see is well placed blows, speed, defence, and overall combined skills that actually represent the world of martial arts, what those guys represent is the world of fighting yes but what they represent is all wrong because people like cain or juniour dos santos are very rare most people that will try to just fight like that will lose its due to there endurance and very powerful punches they manage to dominate but not skills
and to tell you the truth i am not that impressed with fedor, he throws way too many wild punches trying to get the early knock out he forgot about his ground game he adapted himself a new strategy which is ko the opponent right away but when he meets up someone who can take his punches .... you saw him vs antonio
srankmissingnin
It was directly stated on panel that Cass beat Shiva because she had a deathwish... the fact the same deathwish would apply to her other loses around the same time period, doesn't change that fact it was the reason Cass was able to defeat Shiva.
It was directly stated Shiva always had a death wish and that's why she's always travelled the world in her fights.
It's her motive for all her fights, not CIS. Deal with it.
The only time it *might* not apply is after Cass killed her, but it'd apply to every fight beforehand.
Originally posted by -Pr-
shrugi said nothing to the contrary, though i would put him above Canary or Dick.
Yea, I'm just elaborating, not disagreeing 🙂
i could be remembering it wrong, i dunno...
but it IS you, so i'm not sure. mmm [/B][/QUOTE]
Originally posted by Q99[/B][/QUOTE]
It was directly stated Shiva always had a death wish and that's why she's always travelled the world in her fights.It's her motive for all her fights, not CIS. Deal with it.
The only time it *might* not apply is after Cass killed her, but it'd apply to every fight beforehand.
Yea, I'm just elaborating, not disagreeing 🙂
i could be remembering it wrong, i dunno...
but it IS you, so i'm not sure. mmm
And she lost to Cass because she subconsciously wants to die. Pointing out that you can retroactively apply that extenuating circumstance to all Shiva's other previous fights, doesn't change anything...
Just because Shiva wants to die doesn't mean she'd throw the fight anymore than Deadshot's deadwish made him hold back during all his battles in the Suicide Squad.
A Deathwish doesn't necessarily equate to diminished capacity, just a deathwish.
Shiva isn't going to lose to someone who wouldn't beat her normally just out of some wish to die, she's a proud martial artist.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Just because Shiva wants to die doesn't mean she'd throw the fight anymore than Deadshot's deadwish made him hold back during all his battles in the Suicide Squad.A Deathwish doesn't necessarily equate to diminished capacity, just a deathwish.
Shiva isn't going to lose to someone who wouldn't beat her normally just out of some wish to die, she's a proud martial artist.
It does when it was stated to be the reason she lost. Deadshot's death wish or Punisher's death wish or the movie Death Wish staring Charles Bronson are irrelevant. Batgirl said Shiva lost because she had a death wish. That's what was stated. She has a subconscious desire to be killed, which is apparently enough of an advantage for a top tier martial artist to get a win over her, without having to be more skilled.
Originally posted by iceman24567
What you are saying makes zero sense and proves you hav we no clue what you are talking about Brock Lesnar is a talented wrestler stand up is second to his wrestling he has to train stand up its part of mma same with Cain hes a national champ stand up is second in his game they didnt take wrestling classes they were divison one champs you moron. Why dont you actually learn about the guys in the sport before trash talking
i get it you are another brock wanker arent you, listen retardo brock lasner has no talent and no skills at all, he just began fighting in the ufc got his ass kicked by opponents who could actually fight and became a heavyweight champion with the record of 3 wins and 1 loss thats so retarded you can clearly see dana handed him this belt on a golden plate because dana white is desperate to have an american captain america champion like he promoted cuture, chuck, but brock lasner takes the whole cake as a no good not talented fighter of them all
brock lasner sucks at stand up - fact
brock lasnet suck at wrestling and can only mount his opponents and using his huge ass to pin them down to the ground then he just ground and pount them like a lazy idiot - fact
brock lasner has no stamina at all and just tire himself up after couple swings - fact
you know shit about fighting or sport fighting - fact
now go wank your fat boys in speedo
Originally posted by optic_blast!!!Lol at Brock Lesnar a All American division one wrestling champ having no talent. Do you know what division 1 wrestling is? Do you know what national means? Brocks boxing is sub par on average good thing hes a huge former national wrestling champ to make up for it. I cant stand the guy but he has some of the best wrestling credentials in the ufc. Its plain as day that you dont know squat about mma like I thought from the get go time to get back on topic and your on ignore
i get it you are another brock wanker arent you, listen retardo brock lasner has no talent and no skills at all, he just began fighting in the ufc got his ass kicked by opponents who could actually fight and became a heavyweight champion with the record of 3 wins and 1 loss thats so retarded you can clearly see dana handed him this belt on a golden plate because dana white is desperate to have an american captain america champion like he promoted cuture, chuck, but brock lasner takes the whole cake as a no good not talented fighter of them allbrock lasner sucks at stand up - fact
brock lasnet suck at wrestling and can only mount his opponents and using his huge ass to pin them down to the ground then he just ground and pount them like a lazy idiot - fact
brock lasner has no stamina at all and just tire himself up after couple swings - fact
you know shit about fighting or sport fighting - fact
now go wank your fat boys in speedo
Originally posted by iceman24567
Lol at Brock Lesnar a All American division one wrestling champ having no talent. Do you know what division 1 wrestling is? Do you know what national means? Brocks boxing is sub par on average good thing hes a huge former national wrestling champ to make up for it. I cant stand the guy but he has some of the best wrestling credentials in the ufc. Its plain as day that you dont know squat about mma like I thought from the get go time to get back on topic and your on ignore
come on man you cant be serious trying to clame here that brock freakin lasner is a good fighter... i mean seriously? the guy suck at stand up, sucks at wrestling, doesnt have stamina to go on ... i mean come on you can see those facts when he is fighting he can wrestly down his opponents but after he is on top and they are under him he doesnt know what to do
but dont believe me just watch this video it will explain the things better than i can
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVNbMtgpvW8