Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And she lost to Cass because she subconsciously wants to die. Pointing out that you can retroactively apply that extenuating circumstance to all Shiva's other previous fights, doesn't change anything...
It means that Shiva was fighting at the same level she's always fought at, for one thing. Adding a new motive doesn't change a characters skill, it means that the writers were not writing a downgraded Shiva.
For it to be CIS, it'd have to be her fighting at a lower level than in the past. Which it specifically was not.
Originally posted by SquallX
Why is Jason so low.
Because I consider the others slightly better, nothing against him.
He's about equal with Nightwing-Dick, and Dick's gotten an upgrade since then.