Marvel's Best vs. DC's Worst

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Surfer would get blitzed and go down pretty quickly to Zoom.

correct me if I'm wrong, but-

aren't zooms powers time based? he's not a speedster? He just speeds up and slows down time relative to himself?

If surfer's powers allow him to see through and alter time (and there's tons of examples of this in the respect thread) how is zoom going to blitz him?

Keep in mind that cosmic awareness means he knows exactly how everyone's powerset works within nanoseconds.

double edit: keep in mind that surfer's reaction times are very, very fast, and he searched the entire surface of the earth- 198 million square miles- in about 2 seconds.

Originally posted by Starscream M
how would Galactus win?

Originally posted by MrMind
by zoom not able to hurt him?

also, you still haven't explained how galactus would beat zoom.

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I love you Brucey.

Originally posted by Starscream M
why would zoom not be able to hurt galactus? beta ray bill has hurt galactus before.

also, you still haven't explained how galactus would beat zoom.

Originally posted by MrMind

galactus beat zoom by shooting a energy beam annihilate him

Originally posted by Starscream M
could surfer not shoot zoom by shooting an energy beam annihilating him as well?

Originally posted by MrMind
he could, if he can react fast enough.
too bad he can't, so zoom will deliver a thousand punches before surfer attacks him. surfer's dead by then.

I mean if Zoom can deliver a thousand punches before surfer attacks, he can probably dodge galactus with ease.

Originally posted by Space M ummy Surfer. He's easily the fastest member of team 1, and in addition the power cosmic DOES have some kind of time based powers, allowing surfer to travel backwards, forwards, and across time. defensively surfer's body is EXTREMELY durable- he's taken shots to the face from savage hulk without blinking, he can also shrink his body to microscopic size or go intangible at will, so zoom will have a hard time doing any kind of damage to him. Offensively? Surfer has pretty much every power there is, and is an expert matter manipulator. Zoom is likely to be turned into a pile of bricks pretty quickly vs. surfer. eh, I've said my piece here. GR is better offensively and defensively- again, without magic attacks, Lobo cannot injure ghost rider. at all. Lobo has a healing factor, but it's not instantaneous as GR's is. When killed he's down long enough to be considered a loss on KMC, iirc.

etrigan is a top tier mage. he beats gr in the versatility department. like i said, loony tunes lobo would win. many of those examples are not current lobo.

Originally posted by Starscream M
what makes you think galactus could react fast enough then?

I mean if Zoom can deliver a thousand punches before surfer attacks, he can probably dodge galactus with ease.

Originally posted by Starscream M
could surfer not shoot zoom by shooting an energy beam annihilating him as well?

This is awesome btw. you're now my new favorite poster.

But while we wait- fun with math!

198 million square miles in about 2 seconds = about 100 million square miles per second. roughly.

the speed of light is only about 186,000 miles per second.

100 million / 186,000 = 537, or surfer moved at 537 times light speed while SEARCHING for something on the surface of the earth. without breaking a sweat.

How is zoom going to blitz someone who's capable of moving, reacting, and searching that fast?

Originally posted by MrMind
and there, we are back to square one, like I said before, zoom can't hurt galactus

Originally posted by Space M ummy
This is awesome btw. you're now my new favorite poster.

But while we wait- fun with math!

198 million square miles in about 2 seconds = about 100 million square miles per second. roughly.

the speed of light is only about 186,000 miles per second.

100 million / 186,000 = 537, or surfer moved at 537 times light speed while SEARCHING for something on the surface of the earth. without breaking a sweat.

How is zoom going to blitz someone who's capable of moving, reacting, and searching that fast?

Superman and Flash are like statues to Zoom. Surfer would be the same.

Originally posted by Omega Vision

Superman and Flash are like statues to Zoom.

Originally posted by Starscream M
ok, accepting that, neither can galactus tag zoom. so isn't it a stalemate then?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
By having showings where he blitzed people who were faster.

Superman and Flash are like statues to Zoom. Surfer would be the same.

yeah, I'm going to have to call BS on that. neither one of those two operate anywhere near 500x lightspeed on a regular basis (you enter the speedforce at 1x lightspeed!), AND you ignored the fact that surfer is a time manipulator on top of that.

So how again is zoom going to blitz someone who can operate at 500x lightspeed, AND can reverse the flow of time?

Originally posted by MrMind
sign.....galactus uses big area attack destroy the planet with zoom in it.

Originally posted by Starscream M
ah ok...the only way to beat zoom is to destroy the planet he is on. got it.

you're trying not to get it

recently professor zoom speed blitzes the jla. including superman. zoom is a lot faster than pz.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
For those who say Team 1...who do they feel beats Zoom?