Zemo & Photon vs Flash & Zoom

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"Id" The Man of Tomorrow
Originally posted by 753
you do realize that was sarcasm. words like attosecond are tossed about with no reflection by writers on their meanings because they sound impressive. genis CA is more than enough to counter them

Yeah.

I responded with sarcasm. We need to use more sarcasm symbols. mhmm

Tha C-Master Zitz! Rash! Pimple!

The fact that the Nuke had pretty much the ground and they were saved at that moment speaks volumes, he couldn't do it otherwise.

Not to mention it isn't his best feat anyways.

"Id" The Man of Tomorrow

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
The fact that the Nuke had pretty much the ground and they were saved at that moment speaks volumes, he couldn't do it otherwise.

Not to mention it isn't his best feat anyways.

Whats his best feat? because I am not buying quantified numbers by a fan.

Existere tu quoqumber

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It was 2.5 quintillion miles per second or 13 trillion times lightspeed. It had some people disagree, however most and I think that what happens go over what is in text. Especially since if he were going under light he wouldn't have saved anybody.
What? No.

The feat is summed up by the writer, and his word is final on how fast Flash was going there, regardless of what sense it makes. If it states Flash was going lightspeed, then Flash was going lightspeed, or just underneath it. He still managed to save everybody, and that's that.

It doesn't make sense for fans to attempt to overrule the writer's clear stance on how fast Flash was going.

"Id" The Man of Tomorrow

This adds a serious precedent, since fans will take up a time frame, and velocity when its convenient.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by 753
you do realize that was sarcasm. words like attosecond are tossed about with no reflection by writers on their meanings because they sound impressive. genis CA is more than enough to counter them
Odd.

Here you essentially said that we shouldn't take it as fact when writers tell us that 'character x' was moving by the attosecond -- yet you seemed to use the writer's word as gospel later on in this thread, regarding Flash saving all those people whilst moving sub-c.

It has to work both ways.

753 Senior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
Odd.

Here you essentially said that we shouldn't take it as fact when writers tell us that 'character x' was moving by the attosecond -- yet you seemed to use the writer's word as gospel later on in this thread, regarding Flash saving all those people whilst moving sub-c.

It has to work both ways.

oh I take it as a fact that he was moving at an attosecond timeframe. I simply know the writer didn't think that through. but even taking that at facevalue, I'm underhelmed by it on the face of Gennis CA and power. I dont think it's enough to claim he can net the win.

If flash consistently used his attosecond reactions to deliver enough power to beat skyfathers and consistently avoided their power output, I'd rank him as one, although I would find it dumb that speed alone could take him there, but the potential we can infer from his numbers is never really used like that, is it? so why should I assume he is a skyfather level fighter? every single showing of his pointing to the contrary is PIS or CIS? I dont think so. Genis consistently operated at a an absurd power level, flash not so much.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by 753
If flash consistently used his attosecond reactions to deliver enough power to beat skyfathers and consistently avoided their power output, I'd rank him as one, although I would find it dumb that speed alone could take him there, but the potential we can infer from his numbers is never really used like that, is it? so why should I assume he is a skyfather level fighter? every single showing of his pointing to the contrary is PIS or CIS? I dont think so. Genis consistently operated at a an absurd power level, flash not so much.
Good this Zemo/Genis aren't Skyfathers then, eh? 😉

753 Senior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
Good this Zemo/Genis aren't Skyfathers then, eh? 😉
genis is pretty solidly trans at least IMO and claiming he is a low skyfather wouldnt be farfetched

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

I disagree. Feat for feat, Photon really isn't above someone like Surfer.

...And if Genis is trans+ level, Id should be ashamed of himself for using him in a Herald-level tourney. uhuh

753 Senior Member

I think trans is fair. SS's highest feats might match him, but his average doesnt.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

^ Same coin, I don't believe Photon's average feats were trans-level, either. /shrug

"Id" The Man of Tomorrow
Originally posted by Galan007
Id should be ashamed of himself for using him in a Herald-level tourney. uhuh

I saw an opportunity, and I took it. I am still baffled that we lost. We where stacked.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Yeah you were. Tbh, a team really can't get much better than the one you guys had.

...Except for our team. 😛

Philosophía "The devil made me do it"

Originally posted by "Id"
I am still baffled that we lost.
You should be thankful you crawled your way out of the match with me/Raoul, which I'm pretty sure even you thought had lost.

Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
I disagree. Feat for feat, Photon really isn't above someone like Surfer.
Not sure where you're getting that.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

From their feats. Obviously. uhuh

Mindset Senior Member

But Genis generally has better feats and most of them are him not even trying.

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
unless you can prove that the speed of light is faster in the DCU, the writers word means shit here. what actually happened > what the writer said happened

Except that the figures saying the time he did it in, how many people there were, etc, are also the words of the writer. So why do they have to be right and the speed has to be wrong?

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
I disagree. Feat for feat, Photon really isn't above someone like Surfer.

...And if Genis is trans+ level, Id should be ashamed of himself for using him in a Herald-level tourney. uhuh


Ugh. I still can't believe that... what kills me more than losing was that I feel like we should have been able to win with that team. Must have been doing something wrong.