Originally posted by King Kandyit's safe to deduce the writer blundered. his intentions are clearly expressed through the narration box. at best the feat is simply unuseble. flash has other monster feats to fall back on.
Except that the figures saying the time he did it in, how many people there were, etc, are also the words of the writer. So why do they have to be right and the speed has to be wrong?
Originally posted by 753
it's safe to deduce the writer blundered. his intentions are clearly expressed through the narration box. at best the feat is simply unuseble. flash has other monster feats to fall back on.
this:
Originally posted by Existere
What? No.The feat is summed up by the writer, and his word is final on how fast Flash was going there, regardless of what sense it makes. If it states Flash was going lightspeed, then Flash was going lightspeed, or just underneath it. He still managed to save everybody, and that's that.
It doesn't make sense for fans to attempt to overrule the writer's clear stance on how fast Flash was going.
and a little of this:
Originally posted by Galan007
Odd.Here you essentially said that we shouldn't take it as fact when writers tell us that 'character x' was moving by the attosecond -- yet you seemed to use the writer's word as gospel later on in this thread, regarding Flash saving all those people whilst moving sub-c.
It has to work both ways.
and a whole LOTTA this:
Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah you were. Tbh, a team really can't get much better than the one you guys had.😄
...Except for our team. 😛
Originally posted by ExistereWhat? Yes. If Superman is holding Earth and they call it a mountain, what would it be? It would be the Earth.
What? No.The feat is summed up by the writer, and his word is final on how fast Flash was going there, regardless of what sense it makes. If it states Flash was going lightspeed, then Flash was going lightspeed, or just underneath it. He still managed to save everybody, and that's that.
It doesn't make sense for fans to attempt to overrule the writer's clear stance on how fast Flash was going.
And the feat was summed up, using the numbers he gave. It wasn't like the number came from nowhere.
Originally posted by King KandyWell the nuke was on the ground and he did save the city.
Except that the figures saying the time he did it in, how many people there were, etc, are also the words of the writer. So why do they have to be right and the speed has to be wrong?
I think it's best to say it is a "crazy high feat" than to say that it didn't happen. Mark it as invalid or something, but saying it didn't happen otherwise... meh.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterRight. Flash did save the city and nobody called the city as anything less than what it was, or more than what it was, or attributed anything but nuke-like qualities to the nuke.
What? Yes. If Superman is holding Earth and they call it a mountain, what would it be? It would be the Earth.
We can't determine the nature of Flash's feat due to contradictory numbers, which renders it useless in a debate. That's it, full stop.
Originally posted by "Id"just because you can perceive something doesn't mean you can do crap about it. I can see Manny Pacquiao throwing a punch but I'd be doomed if you told me to block it.
Pfft attosecond. If its anything like the picosecond claim, than its another internet hype that’s derailed into bullshit. coffee1Nth level cosmic awareness, heightens his senses enough to cope with his own speed. After all, he did travel 30 light years to reach the Kree Planet in a matter of two panels.
Eat it Flash. EAT IT!
Originally posted by ExistereWe can work with that. I'd be more prone to using the calc and pics, but it is a "silly" feat.
Right. Flash did save the city and nobody called the city as anything less than what it was, or more than what it was, or attributed anything but nuke-like qualities to the nuke.We can't determine the nature of Flash's feat due to contradictory numbers, which renders it useless in a debate. That's it, full stop.
It isn't his best anyways.
So wait even though its impossible for him to save everyone at lightspeed and the narration said he wasn't time traveling or anything like that. We have to assume something that is quite implausible is the way to go because of author intent which can be wrong anyway.
The feat isn't unquantifiable, the people that calc the feat end up with ridiculously high numbers even while trying to use the low end of a calc.
Originally posted by SasuOnaIt's not impossible, time slows down as you approach lightspeed.
So wait even though its impossible for him to save everyone at lightspeed and the narration said he wasn't time traveling or anything like that. We have to assume something that is quite implausible is the way to go because of author intent which can be wrong anyway.The feat isn't unquantifiable, the people that calc the feat end up with ridiculously high numbers even while trying to use the low end of a calc.
Originally posted by King KandyLooking back I know exactly what went wrong. They played at their strengths, and we didn’t.
Ugh. I still can't believe that... what kills me more than losing was that I feel like we should have been able to win with that team. Must have been doing something wrong.
But whatever, we made them work for it. And in the end it was a split vote or something.
But man, we where stacked.
Originally posted by SasuOnaTrue, it had no intention of time slowing, and 13 trillion times is a huge time slowdown. I stick by what I said, or if one doesn't accept that, say it is a "crazy" feat.
So wait even though its impossible for him to save everyone at lightspeed and the narration said he wasn't time traveling or anything like that. We have to assume something that is quite implausible is the way to go because of author intent which can be wrong anyway.The feat isn't unquantifiable, the people that calc the feat end up with ridiculously high numbers even while trying to use the low end of a calc.
Originally posted by Uriel005The Nega Bands will protect Genis at the slightest danger, so as long as his Cosmic Awareness is properly working. Considering its grants Omniscience, Omniversal Telepathy, and the ability to view past, present, and future at all points of time. Good luck thinking, the Flash speed will find a blind spot in his cosmic awareness.
just because you can perceive something doesn't mean you can do crap about it. I can see Manny Pacquiao throwing a punch but I'd be doomed if you told me to block it.
If the Flash wants to harm Genis, he needs to turn off his cosmic awareness. A telepath potent enough could work through his mental shields, or pheromones ala Purple Man have been successful.
Is the Flash capable of doing this? If not all thats left if brute force to breach his shield. A minimum of King Thor level of power.
Originally posted by 753Right.
the writer is god in comics, so if he said it was lightspeed, it was. at best one can dismiss the feat for its inherent contradictions, but to claim that we should do the math and disregard the on panel narration that pretty much stablishe what actually happens as false is absurd
Reinterpreting feats to be more powerful than the writer's clear intention changes the nature of the feat and therefore establishes a different character to debate with than the one in comics.
We're a comics debating forum, and comic Flash accomplished that speed at light speed (or just below it). Therefore that is what happened, and we move forward.
Originally posted by ExistereNo but..but.. we take values…and statements, and twist them to our convenience. All conveniently quantified.
Right.Reinterpreting feats to be more powerful than the writer's clear intention changes the nature of the feat and therefore establishes a different character to debate with than the one in comics.
We're a comics debating forum, and comic Flash accomplished that speed at light speed (or just below it). Therefore that is what happened, and we move forward.
You Monster!