New Nintendo console - Wii U

Originally posted by Smasandian
I'm starting to define gamers as three catagories

Casual
Core
Hardcore

Casual is self explantory. Core are the gamers who have a 360/PS3 but not both and play CoD, Madden, GTA and very popular games. Hardcore are gamers with multiple consoles, play the more obscure stuff.

I feel that Nintendo has to get the core gamer.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
So where do the people who play plenty of games but despise the stuff like CoD and Madden fit in? And I play obscure games and have a couple consoles, but I'd never consider myself "hardcore."

Originally posted by General Kaliero
So where do the people who play plenty of games but despise the stuff like CoD and Madden fit in? And I play obscure games and have a couple consoles, but I'd never consider myself "hardcore."

Yeah, same here.

There's no real way of splitting up gamers like that.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
So where do the people who play plenty of games but despise the stuff like CoD and Madden fit in? And I play obscure games and have a couple consoles, but I'd never consider myself "hardcore."

I might consider calling myself a "hardcore" gamer, if that wasn't what complete tossers call themselves. I am surely much more involved in gaming than the general population, own multiple platforms and have been playing computer games for about 20 years now...I'm surely a gaming enthusiast. The word gamer itself is odd...it's not like other media has to have such a term ascribed to it, and then it is often used derogatorily. I also don't appreciate the contempt people have for video games and particularly adult players of video games...needs to be more respected dammit!

Originally posted by Ushgarak
A prize here for stating the obvious...

http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/117/1175749p1.html

A number of commentators I have seen were confused on whether this was actually a console or not (as opposed to just a fancy controller). It's surprising how people can just miss out some of the basics sometimes... like remembering to say it was a new console.

That line about the console being invisible is lovely gibberish. You will interact with it the exact same amount as any other console- i.e to put discs in it.

You know what console actually looks like it would be almost invisible:

http://www.onlive.com/game-system

I want it so bad, curse me living in boring old europe with my culture and health care!!

Originally posted by Bardock42
I might consider calling myself a "hardcore" gamer, if that wasn't what complete tossers call themselves. I am surely much more involved in gaming than the general population, own multiple platforms and have been playing computer games for about 20 years now...I'm surely a gaming enthusiast. The word gamer itself is odd...it's not like other media has to have such a term ascribed to it, and then it is often used derogatorily. I also don't appreciate the contempt people have for video games and particularly adult players of video games...needs to be more respected dammit!

I consider

Originally posted by Bardock42
I might consider calling myself a "hardcore" gamer, if that wasn't what complete tossers call themselves. I am surely much more involved in gaming than the general population, own multiple platforms and have been playing computer games for about 20 years now...I'm surely a gaming enthusiast. The word gamer itself is odd...it's not like other media has to have such a term ascribed to it, and then it is often used derogatorily. I also don't appreciate the contempt people have for video games and particularly adult players of video games...needs to be more respected dammit!

You know what console actually looks like it would be almost invisible:

http://www.onlive.com/game-system

I want it so bad, curse me living in boring old europe with my culture and health care!!

Don't feel ashamed to call yourself a hardcore gamer. There's a big difference between a gaming enthusiast/hardcore gamer and "dudebro". Dudebro thinks if it ain't Halo, Gears of War or CoD that it isn't gaming.

I like games with deep rich cinematic experiences and 2d side scrollers. Zelda, ANYTHING Resident Evil/survival horror related, Assassins Creed, MGS, Prince of Persia etc. On the other hand I can't play fps because for some reason I get this weird stomach thing going on when I play them for extended periods of time.

I am not opposed to the label, I just don't use it myself, because that's not the connotations that word has to people

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
And Microsoft and Sony don't have gimmicks I'm guessing? *looks at Kinect and all that*

Gaming itself has pretty much always been a gimmick when you think about it.. Whether or not the gimmick being used actually works or is successful is what counts in the end, though.

QUIET YOU uhuh

Microsoft has no gimmicks!!!!

Besides they are just trying to keep up

durw00t

Originally posted by General Kaliero
So where do the people who play plenty of games but despise the stuff like CoD and Madden fit in? And I play obscure games and have a couple consoles, but I'd never consider myself "hardcore."

I just don't see hardcore gamer as a negative term.

Maybe that's it.

But my point is that there are three different type of people who play games in my opinion.

People who play casual gamers, exclusively. Like people who play Angry Birds but don't bother with anything else.

People who play more popular titles who don't go out of there way to understand how the industry works, know famous developers and stuff. If I said, "wow, I can't take Kojima type of games" They wouldn't understand what that meant. Dmills called them better what I said, dudebro's is a perfect title.

And, gamers who love talking about games on forums, play less popular games and get offended when they get called hardcore gamers. Gaming is more of a passion than an activity.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
So where do the people who play plenty of games but despise the stuff like CoD and Madden fit in? And I play obscure games and have a couple consoles, but I'd never consider myself "hardcore."

There's another definition that is not my own, out there, that is more widely accepted: playing games a lot and being a game geek.

I'd say having your own timeline for the Zelda series makes you, irrevocably, a hardcore gamer. 😄 And I don't think that's a bad thing.

Edit - Also, people who play only solitair or things like angry birds are not "hardcore gamers": they are causual gamers.

Wii - generally a casual gamer's console.

Xbox 360 and the PS3 are generally hardcore gaming consoles.

The PC is everything, lol.

I consider myself a hardcore gamer-light. I still play the major titles and the obscure ones. I just don't play that often.

I dont play GTA, FPS's or MMORPGS

But I've had a sega mega, ps one and 2, n64, GC, xbox 360, ps3, Wii, ds, ds lite, gba, psp

I play all sorts of games from RPG's to racing from baten kaitos to mario kart, I currently have a wii at my new house since I just moved. Considering all what I've said because I dont actively play COD or whatever hype people want to jump on i'm not a hardcore gamer? note I'm not saying I am or I aint or even that i wish to be or dont.

i have the feeling that if i was to show a gamer who calls himself an hardcore gamer fire emblem or Zelda game or Mario 64 they would say thats not hardcore and show me GTA or Halo.

I liken a hardcore gamer to an amature gambler.

You have people who gamble casually. They may go to Vegas, play the slot machines, get in a little action at the black jack table, what have you. (casual gamers)

Then you have your more serious gamblers. Looks at the sports odds. Gets in a little action on the big fights/sporting events. Maybe knows a bookie etc. Almost always end up broke lol! (dudebros)

Then you have the guys that are borderline pro gamblers. They know all the ins and outs of the system. They know the high rollers. The know the odds, who's hurt, who's peaking etc. (hardcore gamers)

God I hope that analogy makes sense lol!

Originally posted by General Kaliero
This, precisely. I've played video games for as long as I can remember, many different games in many different genres on myriad different systems, and intend to work in the game industry. I'm certainly more involved with video games than probably 80-90% of the people out there, but I would not for a second consider myself "hardcore," with all the negative connotations that go with the label.

Again, Same here, word for word. Sure we aren't related? 😉

Although I find it simultaneously amusing and depressing that I've had less and less time to play games or work on game projects since becoming a game design student. 😬

Originally posted by MadMel
Again, Same here, word for word. Sure we aren't related? 😉

Although I find it simultaneously amusing and depressing that I've had less and less time to play games or work on game projects since becoming a game design student. 😬

Originally posted by Smasandian
I just don't see hardcore gamer as a negative term.

Maybe that's it.

But my point is that there are three different type of people who play games in my opinion.

People who play casual gamers, exclusively. Like people who play Angry Birds but don't bother with anything else.

People who play more popular titles who don't go out of there way to understand how the industry works, know famous developers and stuff. If I said, "wow, I can't take Kojima type of games" They wouldn't understand what that meant. Dmills called them better what I said, dudebro's is a perfect title.

And, gamers who love talking about games on forums, play less popular games and get offended when they get called hardcore gamers. Gaming is more of a passion than an activity.

I simply think that your three categories aren't enough to classify gamers as a whole.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
I know, right? And it totally ruins video games, because every time you play you're analyzing how they did this and that, and noticing where they should have refined things and such.

As for this console, I want to see more before I rush off to spend money. Not usually my style, but we'll see how it goes.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
What is a "hardcore gamer"? I'm only asking in here because lots of people are throwing the term around.

I was under the impression that the actual definition was based upon the amount of time someone spent playing a game, not on having a predilection on graphics or MP games or what not, otherwise I imagine a "hardcore gamer" who only has a console would be an oxymoron, as PC's will be superior to a console in MP support and graphics.

Those are just people who prefer realism-type art style games over cell shaded ones, which WW would fall under the latter.

I suppose I said that wrong. I don't mean people who disliked it for themselves, I meant, people who thought it was an indisputably bad game because of that. Basically, the belief that a game/consoles specs "objectively" decide how good it is.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Well regardless of how you see it personally, "hardcore gamer" has a generally negative connotation. Put that term into Google and search images, and you mainly get stuff like this:

I simply think that your three categories aren't enough to classify gamers as a whole.

Then what do you think?

You never really said what you think but disregarded anything else.

Even people on this forum alone have different opinions on what a hardcore gamer is.

I don't see is a negative. A hardcore football fan isn't a negative term but a gamer is?

Originally posted by Smasandian
Then what do you think?

You never really said what you think but disregarded anything else.

Even people on this forum alone have different opinions on what a hardcore gamer is.

I don't see is a negative. A hardcore football fan isn't a negative term but a gamer is?

That's why I don't offer categories of my own. They're just not fulfilling their objective.

A hardcore football fan isn't negative, by the way, because that's how society has dictated it. Males are impressed upon from an early age that sports are manly and tough and desirable. Since most men can't actually play those sports for various reasons, being deeply into it as a fan is societally the next best thing. Video gaming has nowhere near the same level of societal acceptance and desirability.