New Nintendo console - Wii U

I just see hardcore gamers as people who have video games as a passion.

Same as a hardcore sports fan, music fan, foodie and anything else for that matter.

If society thinks that "hardcore" gamers are the ones who are assholes then I guess I'm wrong but I always felt that hardcore gamers are people who love video games and have a passion for it. For instance, all the friends that I have who are hardcore gamers are not the assholes. It just seems that passionate video gamers are considered more ******* than others is because they generally reside online, which brings an entirely different can of worms.

Are you guys still going on with this labels discussion?

It's pointless

There was a thread about different gamers labels, and even in that one lack a few labels, and nobody could say they were just one and not the other. There are different taste and it's hard for someone to be a 100% hardcore, dudebro, wiitard, casual gamer.

why not see this from the game point of view?, not the gamer.

Casual wasn't even a term 5 years ago. Nintendo single handily created the term, even though there were casual games before the Wii

a casual game is one people play casually just to enjoy and have fun, but it's not necessary to complete the game, get a 100% completion, unlock new levels and such, just pop in the game and play it not caring much about progression...

a hardcore game has set goals, levels, a much more define sense of progression and reward. You're having fun but your working towards something (see the ending, unlock all levels, unlock all extras, level up)

so a casual gamer just play for the sake of playing (most family games are like this)

a hardcore gamer plays to complete and master the game, it doesn't matter what kind of games he/she likes (a hardcore Angry Birds player)

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Originally posted by Smasandian
I just see hardcore gamers as people who have video games as a passion.

Same as a hardcore sports fan, music fan, foodie and anything else for that matter.

If society thinks that "hardcore" gamers are the ones who are assholes then I guess I'm wrong but I always felt that hardcore gamers are people who love video games and have a passion for it. For instance, all the friends that I have who are hardcore gamers are not the assholes. It just seems that passionate video gamers are considered more ******* than others is because they generally reside online, which brings an entirely different can of worms.

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Originally posted by S_D_J
Are you guys still going on with this labels discussion?

It's pointless

There was a thread about different gamers labels, and even in that one lack a few labels, and nobody could say they were just one and not the other. There are different taste and it's hard for someone to be a 100% hardcore, dudebro, wiitard, casual gamer.

why not see this from the game point of view?, not the gamer.

Casual wasn't even a term 5 years ago. Nintendo single handily created the term, even though there were casual games before the Wii

a casual game is one people play casually just to enjoy and have fun, but it's not necessary to complete the game, get a 100% completion, unlock new levels and such, just pop in the game and play it not caring much about progression...

a hardcore game has set goals, levels, a much more define sense of progression and reward. You're having fun but your working towards something (see the ending, unlock all levels, unlock all extras, level up)

so a casual gamer just play for the sake of playing (most family games are like this)

a hardcore gamer plays to complete and master the game, it doesn't matter what kind of games he/she likes (a hardcore Angry Birds player)

I don't see a single reason why Mario games couldn't be considered hardcore games. Any game that you have to spend hours upon hours of your life and a specific effort to get everything within the game would cater to the perfectionist/completionist personality of a hardcore gamer.

The only reason I even brought the topic up was because I noticed that a lot of people were talking shit about hardcore gamers. That in itself doesn't really mean anything to me, but, it surprises me that no one here can even define one. It's kind of like saying that homosexuals are evil but not knowing what a homosexual is.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I don't see a single reason why Mario games couldn't be considered hardcore games. Any game that you have to spend hours upon hours of your life and a specific effort to get everything within the game would cater to the perfectionist/completionist personality of a hardcore gamer.

The only reason I even brought the topic up was because I noticed that a lot of people were talking shit about hardcore gamers. That in itself doesn't really mean anything to me, but, it surprises me that no one here can even define one. It's kind of like saying that homosexuals are evil but not knowing what a homosexual is.

Originally posted by S_D_J
Are you guys still going on with this labels discussion?

It's pointless

There was a thread about different gamers labels, and even in that one lack a few labels, and nobody could say they were just one and not the other. There are different taste and it's hard for someone to be a 100% hardcore, dudebro, wiitard, casual gamer.

why not see this from the game point of view?, not the gamer.

Casual wasn't even a term 5 years ago. Nintendo single handily created the term, even though there were casual games before the Wii

a casual game is one people play casually just to enjoy and have fun, but it's not necessary to complete the game, get a 100% completion, unlock new levels and such, just pop in the game and play it not caring much about progression...

a hardcore game has set goals, levels, a much more define sense of progression and reward. You're having fun but your working towards something (see the ending, unlock all levels, unlock all extras, level up)

so a casual gamer just play for the sake of playing (most family games are like this)

a hardcore gamer plays to complete and master the game, it doesn't matter what kind of games he/she likes (a hardcore Angry Birds player)

EDIT:

This

Wait....is it pointless or is it what Smasandian said? I'm confused.

Originally posted by HigH ScholaR
I dont play GTA, FPS's or MMORPGS

But I've had a sega mega, ps one and 2, n64, GC, xbox 360, ps3, Wii, ds, ds lite, gba, psp

I play all sorts of games from RPG's to racing from baten kaitos to mario kart, I currently have a wii at my new house since I just moved. Considering all what I've said because I dont actively play COD or whatever hype people want to jump on i'm not a hardcore gamer? note I'm not saying I am or I aint or even that i wish to be or dont.

i have the feeling that if i was to show a gamer who calls himself an hardcore gamer fire emblem or Zelda game or Mario 64 they would say thats not hardcore and show me GTA or Halo.

Yeah, man, I'd say you're not a hardcore gamer specifically because you don't play that often and when you do you don't play the blockbuster titles.

Not that being a hardcore gamer is a bad thing. It's similar to the title "gym-rat": just means you like your hobby. 😄

Originally posted by King Kandy
To me, a hardcore gamer is somebody who prioritizes tech specs over "fun"; someone who would dismiss low-tech games, regardless of quality. For instance, people who disliked wind waker purely because of the graphics, qualify to me.

Nice. That is actually a good example.

Originally posted by S_D_J
There was a thread about different gamers labels, and even in that one lack a few labels, and nobody could say they were just one and not the other. There are different taste and it's hard for someone to be a 100% hardcore, dudebro, wiitard, casual gamer.

In fact, I think I'm the one that created that thread. hmm

I don't think being hardcore is about the type of games that you play, but rather how serious you are about playing them to completion etc. Again I go back to my gambling analogy. It doesn't matter if its blackjack, poker, horse racing or sporting events. If you're serious about the craft then you're hardcore.

I haven't played a Mario game to completion since I was a kid. It's just not my thing anymore. I'm a Resident Evil, Dead Space survival horror kinda guy. For ninty I love Zelda, Mario Kart, F-zero, Sin and punishment etc. My wife however loves and plays any Mario game to completion and is deadly serious about it. I'd never be so pompous as to suggested that she's not a serious gamer. I mean hell, she subcribes to game informer and everything lol!

So Basically a ruff idea that just came to me is that pre COD/halo an hardcore gamer is/was someone who knows his games and game industry, subscribes, collects and plays a wide range of games and is a completionist. If you only play one genre of games but you do everything else your an hardcore specialist.....lol I making crap up 😂

But Anyway even if all that was correct post COD/Halo Hardcore gamer means Arse, God complex, or the feeling of 🙄, (Ass, Douche) etc you get the idea

Originally posted by King Kandy
Have to say I disagree. Mario games would be "hardcore" by that notion, but I think you would have a hard time arguing anyone perceives them as such.

I don't see any reason why Mario woudn't be hardcore. In fact N¡ntendo went out of it's way for it to be categorize as Hardcore, by the time Galaxy 2 come out it was the Hardcore wii game to get. (Green Stars anyone)

Originally posted by Bardock42
Wait....is it pointless or is it what Smasandian said? I'm confused.

It's pointless to categorize gamers as no one fits just one label.

I was agreeing to Smasandian about what hardcore as a concept is.

Originally posted by dadudemon
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In fact, I think I'm the one that created that thread. hmm

I think this discussion will be more suited there 131

back on topic:

Wii U Won't Support DVD or Blu-ray
Most people already own DVD and Blu-ray players, says Nintendo President.

Nintendo President Satoru Iwata has confirmed that "Wii U does not have DVD or Blu-ray playback capabilities."

Speaking at a a E3 Expo Analyst Q&A session on June 8, 2011, Iwata said that the reason for the omission was that "enough people already have devices that are capable of playing DVDs and Blu-ray, such it didn't warrant the cost involved to build that functionality into the Wii U console because of the patents related to those technologies."

Wii U will instead use high-density optical discs.

Would you have liked the ability to play DVDs or Blu-rays on Wii U? Or do you agree with Iwata's point?

Just like the Wii, there's no need for it to read Video BRs... but is it still using BR Rom disc or will it be an all new proprietary format?

Nintendo Registers Wii U Game Domains, New Hardware Shots Emerge
Wii U Sports, Wii U Music, NSMB Mii among domains registered

Nintendo has registered several new domain names that might give us a clue as to which titles it has in development for the Wii U, and new shots of the console itself have appeared online.

First off, let's have a look at the console – Japanese website [b]Indie Games managed to get some photos of the unit, which was enclosed inside a giant, heavily-secured pod on the show floor and at the behind-closed-doors play sessions. There's a gallery of shots, including close-ups of the inputs.

Image courtesy of Inside Games

As for those domain names, Nintendo World Report has uncovered a list of newly-registered domain names that all redirect to the Nintendo home page. Many of them are just Wii accessories with the letter "u" appended – "wiiuzapper.com", "wiiuwheel.com", "wiiuremote.com" – but some also hint at games, including WiiMusicU.com and WiiPartyU.com.

"newsupermariobrosmii.com" is also on the list, suggesting that the E3 tech demo might not be just a tech demo after all – New Super Mario Bros Mii would do well as an augmented NSMB Wii re-release.

Domain names aren't always used for actual websites, of course – companies often register them just to prevent someone else from doing so, or to use as redirects to another site.

damn it's long

I must say I don't like it's shape that much, especially since it's rest horizontally, that might overheat like hell 😬

So anyway...
http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/117/1176197p1.html

Think I'll pass on the Wii U now.

The Wii-U will sell like hotcakes, for sure. I'll prolly buy one a few years into its cycle, after the prices go down and they release the improved models.

It looks really retarded though so far, in form and function.

Originally posted by Mist_haermm
So anyway...
http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/117/1176197p1.html

Think I'll pass on the Wii U now.

That's because Nintendo could make a plastic box filled with human feces and you'd buy it as long as it could run Oacarina of Time.

super13

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I'll be getting the Wii-U over the next Xbox. 😬

Don't you think it is a bit early to make that decision if you actually want to be the better system, rather than being a Nintendo fanboy?

I'll probably get both....cause I'm filthy rich mmm

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
The Wii-U will sell like hotcakes, for sure. I'll prolly buy one a few years into its cycle, after the prices go down and they release the improved models.

It looks really retarded though so far, in form and function.

I still don't think the Wii U will sell like crazy. It will do well but have the same success as the Wii, I don't know.

Wii U only supports one player because of price concerns

Nintendo has revealed that the Wii U will only support one controller at a time because of price concerns. Nintendo apparently has the technology required to support four controllers at once, but the publisher claims it's too expensive for consumers.

"We're not planning on asking our customers to buy multiple Wii U controllers," said president Satoru Iwata, making the decision sound like he's doing us a favor.

"In the future, we may look at what other opportunities there are for gameplay and, how having two of those controllers might create fun or interesting new styles of play, but of course in doing that, it would require a consumer to purchase an additional controller," he told shareholders. "Therefore, we would need to carefully consider how we could create such an experience and, potentially, how we could ensure that there would be enough value within that experience for the consumer to accept that cost and make that purchase."

This sounds like a weird decision to me. If Nintendo's only concern is consumer cost, why not let the Wii U support multiple controllers and let consumers make the decision for ourselves? Unless of course, it would need to shell out more cash for extra development and it's afraid not enough people would buy a second remote to justify it. That sounds a little less altruistic than Nintendo's version.

I still think it'll cost around $200 at retail, but even if it's priced around $100 it'll cost more than say, the PS Move does and still is not good business.

they will surely sell extra tablets, but seeing how most people can be dumb, I'm sure there'll be those confused about whether they should buy and extra controller or not, and cry foul when the price is announced

Originally posted by Smasandian
I still don't think the Wii U will sell like crazy. It will do well but have the same success as the Wii, I don't know.

If that was the case, the Nintendo GameCube would of been the highest selling console but it was not.

The Wii sold like crazy because everybody and their grandma bought it. I don't see it happening twice.

"Will sell like hotcakes" =\= "Best selling console". I never said it would beat out the other two systems. I said that it'll sell a ridiculous amount of systems.