Re: which one of these DC/Marvel characters is the toughest mentally?
Originally posted by wildernesss
which one of these DC/Marvel characters is the toughest mentally?of the listed characters, which single hero (throughout their lives) has demonstrated the most resilience, pain tolerance, and superior will power in the face of overwhelming and seemingly impossible odds.
Originally posted by Tha C-Mastertrue, but that's not the only thing. the general tone of a comic and the concept of the character itself matter too. darker themed books like punisher, wolverine and batman have them going through a lot more shit than more optimistic titles with squeaky clean heroes in them. the amount of trauma wolverine and castle have been subjected to is sort of out of scale, specially with all the retcons and revelations of the past that keep piling up on them
They all have faced tragedy on several occasions. People have characters they read more, so they are more likely to say them.
Originally posted by 753
true, but that's not the only thing. the general tone of a comic and the concept of the character itself matter too. darker themed books like punisher, wolverine and batman have them going through a lot more shit than more optimistic titles with squaky clean heroes in them. the amount of trauma wolverine and castle have been subjected to is sort of out of scale, specially with all the retcons and revelations of the past that keep piling up on them
Originally posted by 753Depends, characters like Spider-Man aren't "bad boys", but he has plenty of bad times and traumas, clones, etc. Not just superhero stuff, stuff in his normal life sucks, so many current characters face it in some way or another.
true, but that's not the only thing. the general tone of a comic and the concept of the character itself matter too. darker themed books like punisher, wolverine and batman have them going through a lot more shit than more optimistic titles with squeaky clean heroes in them. the amount of trauma wolverine and castle have been subjected to is sort of out of scale, specially with all the retcons and revelations of the past that keep piling up on them
Originally posted by 753
true, but that's not the only thing. the general tone of a comic and the concept of the character itself matter too. darker themed books like punisher, wolverine and batman have them going through a lot more shit than more optimistic titles with squeaky clean heroes in them. the amount of trauma wolverine and castle have been subjected to is sort of out of scale, specially with all the retcons and revelations of the past that keep piling up on them
Eh, Punisher, Wolverine, Daredevil etc. comics are darker but that doesn't in itself put them above the more mainstream super heroes.
For a while Thor walked around with most of his bones broken into pieces; every movement was agony. During the Seth War, Grogg kidnapped a depowered Thor, and tortured him repeatedly with his staff. Despite it causing him to scream in pain -according to Rogers- as an Immortal, he never said a word as a mortal.
And if you want sacrifice, Thor condemned his entire race to death. Literally led Surtur's army to Valhalla, watched his closest friends die and destroyed his realm because it was necessary.
If you want something more darker, there's Garth Ennis' Viking's mini where Thor got his ass handed to him. I mean bone sticking out of shin, his wrists hanging on by a thin lair of skin, crushed face etc. and he wouldn't stop. Harald tied a chain from his neck to Mjolnir and dropped him in a river; Thor still carried himself out.
Superman has some good ones too. Gog tortured him for centuries under Kryptonite and he still wouldn't crack. Then there's the Camelot Fall scene where his heart is ripped out and his magma ran through his veins. To be fair, those are potential futures but still.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusNot only that but one must go by how well they adjust. Spider-Man is well adjusted to his life for the things he faces, he's not out doing killing sprees, so one could argue that he is *indeed* mentally tougher than many "badass" characters.
Eh, Punisher, Wolverine, Daredevil etc. comics are darker but that doesn't in itself put them above the more mainstream super heroes.For a while Thor walked around with most of his bones broken into pieces; every movement was agony. During the Seth War, Grogg kidnapped a depowered Thor, and tortured him repeatedly with his staff. Despite it causing him to scream in pain -according to Rogers- as an Immortal, he never said a word as a mortal.
And if you want sacrifice, Thor condemned his entire race to death. Literally led Surtur's army to Valhalla, watched his closest friends die and destroyed his realm because it was necessary.
If you want something more darker, there's Garth Ennis' Viking's mini where Thor got his ass handed to him. I mean bone sticking out of shin, his wrists hanging on by a thin lair of skin, crushed face etc. and he wouldn't stop. Harald tied a chain from his neck to Mjolnir and dropped him in a river; Thor still carried himself out.
Superman has some good ones too. Gog tortured him for centuries under Kryptonite and he still wouldn't crack. Then there's the Camelot Fall scene where his heart is ripped out and his magma ran through his veins. To be fair, those are potential futures but still.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Doom. Reticent as I am to laud the overrated tin can, the guy was tortured for centuries on end and didn't once cry out in pain or shed a tear just to deprive his tormentors of the satisfaction.
Oh yea, Doom has insane feats of will power. Another example of a less street type character.
Ripped to pieces by prehistoric sharks and his will somehow kept him alive. The scene with Beyonder where his literally taking apart half of Doom's body layer by layer.
I also forgot to mention the scene where Mephisto tries and fails to break Thor's soul.
Re: which one of these DC/Marvel characters is the toughest mentally?
Originally posted by wildernesss
which one of these DC/Marvel characters is the toughest mentally?of the listed characters, which single hero (throughout their lives) has demonstrated the most resilience, pain tolerance, and superior will power in the face of overwhelming and seemingly impossible odds.
their powers are irrelevant.
Superman deserves honorable mention, if nothing else but for being so principled that he wouldn't kill a scumbag like Manchester Black even when he thought he'd just murdered Lois.
There's a lot of shit on this forum about heroes who don't kill being 'pussies', 'hypocrites', 'naive', or 'idiotic', but sometimes it takes so much more spiritual certainty and fortitude NOT to kill someone.
