Wonder Woman vs Beta Ray Bill

Started by -Pr-10 pages

Originally posted by carver9
My scans would be pointless because Bill and Diana have the same type of feats.

Blocking projectiles/blast, blitzing ...

http://m673.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/galanphotos/brb_sasquatch1.jpg.html?src=www&action=view&current=brb_sasquatch1.jpg

They are pretty much even in the speed dept imo. Everything else... Bill has the edge in. Surviving 2 planets exploding on him... surviving in the core of the sun... surviving 2 initial, point blank attacks from a pissed Galactus and the list goes on.

Bill is far more powerful as well and far more versatile.

Wonder Woman fighting skills and her bracers is the key to this fight and could give her some wins (don't know how many).

That's more a bullrush than a speedblitz. anything else?

and you're sure he survived all of those without any aid whatsoever?

Bill 6/10

Originally posted by long pig
No. Not at all. She's his superior. What does he have that she can't block? He gets 3 outta 10.

Make your mind up, She is either ALL out superior and "all but stomps" or Dave gets 3/10.

Now , please elaborate on how Bill gets his 3/10. And explain wh it can't be applied to make a 4/10..or a 5/..possibly a 6/?

Originally posted by carver9
He was wrecking planets, get over it.

Skuttle bucket was moving at Hyper speeds and Surfer and Bill was fighting while keeping up with skuttlebucket the entire time.

Show me Superman and Wnder Woman fighting each other at light speed and you better not show that Max Lord fight because I boo booed on that feat a long time ago.

Show me Wonder Woman fighting Amazo at light speed AND PROVE IT. Show me Wonder Woman fighting Zoom at light and prove it. Don't show me her tagging him because that's not enough.

You know as well as i do that flying at lightspeed while fighting isn't the same as lightspeed fighting. Two jets flying faster than sound fighting doesn't mean the pilots have superspeed. Bill can move way faster than light, but reaction wise he's very limited. Not in the same league as Ww. He's got no chance getting physical with her. Same with Thor. It sucks but deal with it. Bill is a billion times cooler though.

Originally posted by Juk3n
Make your mind up, She is either ALL out superior and "all but stomps" or Dave gets 3/10.

Now , please elaborate on how Bill gets his 3/10. And explain wh it can't be applied to make a 4/10..or a 5/..possibly a 6/?

No. She IS all out superior -physically-. Power output wise she is not. She can't curbstomp because he's got a puncher's chance. Her blunt force trauma durability is some of the highest in comics, but there's always a chance. A shat chance, but a chance. But you're right, 3-10 is a bit low. 4-10 is better.

Bill wins. This is a good fight though.

Originally posted by long pig
You know as well as i do that flying at lightspeed while fighting isn't the same as lightspeed fighting. Two jets flying faster than sound fighting doesn't mean the pilots have superspeed. Bill can move way faster than light, but reaction wise he's very limited. Not in the same league as Ww. He's got no chance getting physical with her. Same with Thor. It sucks but deal with it. Bill is a billion times cooler though.

I have always said this... flying through space at light doesn't equal faster than light speed combat... not even close. I would give Diana the edge reflex wise but its not enough to make it a stomp and she sure as hell doesn't fight at light speed or anywhere close to it.

Diana skills along with her superior combat speed makes this a fight but overall Bill is just more powerful imo.

Originally posted by -Pr-
That's more a bullrush than a speedblitz. anything else?

and you're sure he survived all of those without any aid whatsoever?

I agree, it is a bullrush.

As for your comment on him surviving what I said... yes, he did it twice. The first time he did it, Star Dust and him were driving (can't think of her name) Omega through the core of the planet which made it explode.

The second time it happened was when Bill set a trap for Galactus. He was basically trying to starve Galactus out and him and Galactus was on a boobie trapped planet and the planet exploded while Bill and Galactus was on it.

Originally posted by carver9
WTF... Bill was fighting Surfer at light speed. WTF... Bill was wrecking planets in his fight against Star dust. Hell, he wreck two planets.

NEXT.

Bill wasn't fighting at light speed, he was traveling at light speed on his ship. How fast do you think you are traveling right now around the milky way? Now get in a fight. Congratulations, you are fighting faster than the speed of sound. And light speed is nothing to WW.

Do you know how Bill wrecked the planets? Merely saying that he wreck them (without the how) as evidence to him wrecking WW is faulty.

He wrecked one by shooting a blast that made the planet's core unstable, causing it to exploded. He wrecked another using technology.

There is no way Bill can beat someone who is more skilled, faster, and have several one shot tactics. Being more powerful as to decide who will win is purely faulty reasoning. This is lazy debating.

Character A can be more powerful than Character B. But Character B will win against Character A for XYZ reasons.

Originally posted by h1a8
Bill wasn't fighting at light speed, he was traveling at light speed on his ship. How fast do you think you are traveling right now around the milky way? Now get in a fight. Congratulations, you are fighting faster than the speed of sound. And light speed is nothing to WW.

Do you know how Bill wrecked the planets? Merely saying that he wreck them (without the how) as evidence to him wrecking WW is faulty.

He wrecked one by shooting a blast that made the planet's core unstable, causing it to exploded. He wrecked another using technology.

There is no way Bill can beat someone who is more skilled, faster, and have several one shot tactics.

Look at my scans on the previous page please because you don't know what you are talking about. Bill never destroyed a planet with a blast.

Wonder Woman doesn't combat at light speed. I'm not wasting my time debating with you H1... your posts are insane and you don't know about the characters you debate for or against.

Delta Ray Dave.

Agreed

Alpha Ray Andy takes this, her blocking ability with the bracers is not enough to secure anything like a majority here as made evident in her own 'verse nor is her punching power, and while combat speed (not just her bracer blocking) is debateable, their power output is not, he is significantly higher in the physical striking and energy output range. Durability also. More ruthless also. WW gets wins with her gear, if the DC buffs want to include her Lasso 🙄 , then so be it, she fast enough to get in close and durable enough to tank a couple close range hits while she goes for the pin.

But if the DC'ers want a FIGHT..and decide to take it upon themselves to exclude 1HK weapons. Zeta Ray Zohan would get a majority.

something about zeta ray zohan bothers me .... 😛

Originally posted by Lord Feron
something about zeta ray zohan bothers me .... 😛

Is it because he has long foot..

i mean a 'foot long..' 😉

Originally posted by -Pr-
That's more a bullrush than a speedblitz. anything else?

and you're sure he survived all of those without any aid whatsoever?

Well, Galactus knocked him out, then he woke up in the sun and the sun's heat sort of revives him...

Originally posted by TerrellCarter
She beat Genocide, Primaid, Ares, Diamos, Kid Amazo, Queen of Fables,Etc. She def can beat Bill. He just isn't fast enough to compensate for her huge speed and skill advantage. It's not like lightning is going to hurt her. LOL. She has her own.
She can beat him not just for a majority. She's good for a fluke win here and there this I can agree with.

Originally posted by carver9
Wonder Woman isn't faster.
Originally posted by carver9
WTF... Bill was fighting Surfer at light speed.
Originally posted by carver9
I would give Diana the edge reflex wise
Originally posted by carver9
Wonder Woman doesn't combat at light speed.

so which is it?

and for anyone wondering, i just trimmed quotes; i didn't change the content.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Well, Galactus knocked him out, then he woke up in the sun and the sun's heat sort of revives him...

so much for tanking.

Originally posted by Juk3n
Agreed

Alpha Ray Andy takes this, her blocking ability with the bracers is not enough to secure anything like a majority here as made evident in her own 'verse nor is her punching power, and while combat speed (not just her bracer blocking) is debateable, their power output is not, he is significantly higher in the physical striking and energy output range. Durability also. More ruthless also. WW gets wins with her gear, if the DC buffs want to include her Lasso 🙄 , then so be it, she fast enough to get in close and durable enough to tank a couple close range hits while she goes for the pin.

But if the DC'ers want a FIGHT..and decide to take it upon themselves to exclude 1HK weapons. Zeta Ray Zohan would get a majority.

Are you kidding me? She's blocked Amazo, Superman, Circe, White Martians. Etc. Her blocking ability is going to block everything Bill can throw at her. He's no Superman. Superman is the only being in DC able to physically best her on the heros side of things. And even Superman has to work for a win. WW's combat speed is all over Bills. She's blocked multiple light speed projections from all angles. Bill can't attack that fast. And getting physical would be aweful for Bill. She's far more skilled than he is. And faster. Not only that, Her lasso and tiaro are one shot wonders. She's got lightning if he decides to get too close. And Bill certainly isn't more ruthless. Remember Diana's fight with Genocide? Yeah. I'm done. Bann me again till next time. LOL.

Nvr, I'll sell you my account.

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