Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusScans 1-2: Directing a vortex in that manner has nada to do with what I was saying.
And here's conclusive evidence that Thor can in fact direct his vortexes:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsWarriorThree2.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsWarriorThree3.jpgBut if you really want to see the vortexes working on something of extreme speed:
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa469/R-O-O/Thor/TeleportsBlackHole1.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa469/R-O-O/Thor/TeleportsBlackHole2.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa469/R-O-O/Thor/TeleportsBlackHole3.jpgI still say Thor should just zap him:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/TransportsUlik.jpg
Scans 3-5: Thor manifested a portal around the ship he was in, no? That's not the same as him standing in one place and manifesting a portal around the ship as it went flying by him.
It's like that old grade school math question you've likely heard... Two cars are both traveling at 75mph, and they drive by one another at the exact same time. How fast did each driver perceive the other the instant they crossed? Answer: The perception would have been that the other driver was standing still. Frame of reference.
Scan 6: If Prime's immunity to magic would help him at all against the Asgardians, then that is the exact type of maneuver that would be the least effective, imo.
Originally posted by Hyperion PrimeIf Superboy and Krytpo can cause him to bleed this team is going to rough him up some good. Too powerful, too many of them, and Loki in the mix they are way too much for Prime to overcome.
What else are they going to do to him?? They certainly arent beating him up. BFR is needed and the only option.
Originally posted by Galan007
Scans 1-2: Directing a vortex in that manner has nada to do with what I was saying.Scans 3-5: Thor manifested a portal around the ship he was in, no? That's not the same as him standing in one place and manifesting a portal around the ship as it went flying by him.
It's like that old grade school math question you've likely heard... Two cars are both traveling at 75mph, and they drive by one another at the exact same time. How fast did each driver perceive the other the instant they crossed? Answer: The perception would have been that the other driver was standing still. Frame of reference.
Scan 6: If Prime's immunity to magic would help him at all against the Asgardians, then that is the exact type of maneuver that would be the least effective, imo.
Is battle field removal still not our main topic of discussion? Knowing Prime, it's likely he'd fly head first into any of their attacks just to show off.
The point is to prove that it works on fast moving targets -if there was ever any doubt- and together with Thor's ability to create large vortexes, his ability to battle field remove Prime shouldn't even be debatable anymore.
If he can create a vortex large enough for a Nuclear Power Plant or the Avengers including their Mansion, what's their to discuss? Everyone knows how Prime operates. His going to go in close and try to punch their heads off. Thor creates a vortex large enough to encompass all of the combatants, and sends Prime to some hell dimension. Thor can control who goes where inside the area of effect.
Like I said, he has great resistance to being hurt by magic. That doesn't translate into somehow canceling out magic. Not without evidence. So far his been blasted/attacked by seemingly raw power that tried to harm his person. It simply has little effect, causing him to be tickled. Until we see a spell or some other magic different from blast-him-into-nothing, I'll assume it's viable.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusIt's possible that Thor's vortexes *could* work, but frankly, I think you're digging quite a bit to say that they *would* work. The scans you presented show Thor creating vortexes around stationary objects/characters -- if Prime were moving around at any type of speed (as he did against all the heroes in SCW) there's nothing that leads me to believe said vortexes would be successful.
Is battle field removal still not our main topic of discussion? Knowing Prime, it's likely he'd fly head first into any of their attacks just to show off.The point is to prove that it works on fast moving targets -if there was ever any doubt- and together with Thor's ability to create large vortexes, his ability to battle field remove Prime shouldn't even be debatable anymore.
If he can create a vortex large enough for a Nuclear Power Plant or the Avengers including their Mansion, what's their to discuss? Everyone knows how Prime operates. His going to go in close and try to punch their heads off. Thor creates a vortex large enough to encompass all of the combatants, and sends Prime to some hell dimension. Thor can control who goes where inside the area of effect.
Like I said, he has great resistance to being hurt by magic. That doesn't translate into somehow canceling out magic. Not without evidence. So far his been blasted/attacked by seemingly raw power that tried to harm his person. It simply has little effect, causing him to be tickled. Until we see a spell or some other magic different from blast-him-into-nothing, I'll assume it's viable.
As for Prime's immunity to magic: magical energy is magical energy. If he can shrug off magical blasts from Mordru, why would I believe magical BFR-blasts from Mjolnir would be any more effective?
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
What else are they going to do to him?? They certainly arent beating him up. BFR is needed and the only option.
Mjolnir can manipulate souls, though it's rarely done. BRB has the same abilities.
Seriously though- if BFR isn't an option, both hammers are crazy powerful energy and matter manipulators- Flooding SBP with red solar energy to depower him would be a valid way to take him out.
