Originally posted by carver9
Masterson got his a** whipped.
Not really. Masterson was only knocked off his feet by repeated blows from Gladiator.
He wasn't as effective in combat but it wasn't for a lack of strength:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/MastersonThorvsGladiator4.jpg
He simply wasn't a warrior.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not really. Masterson was only knocked off his feet by repeated blows from Gladiator.He wasn't as effective in combat but it wasn't for a lack of strength:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/MastersonThorvsGladiator4.jpgHe simply wasn't a warrior.
Just thought I'd add that in this issue Gladiator, while fully confident and going for the kill was unable to even knock Wonderman (At a time when he was at his weakest and not looking for a fight) out, only BFR him.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not really. Masterson was only knocked off his feet by repeated blows from Gladiator.He wasn't as effective in combat but it wasn't for a lack of strength:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/MastersonThorvsGladiator4.jpgHe simply wasn't a warrior.
Masterson only advantage in that fight was during the begining when he blitzed Gladiator in the back and then when he snuck attacked him yet again during the emd. Gladiator controlled that battle while smiling.
What does that scan prove? Masterson look like he was losing that struggle. Post the scan after that please... I like looking at it.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Just thought I'd add that in this issue Gladiator, while fully confident and going for the kill was unable to even knock Wonderman (At a time when he was at his weakest and not looking for a fight) out, only BFR him.
Haha MM. No one gives a shit about Lackluster Man. Get the gone.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
who wins dum dum?
However I dont feel Gladiator, who I have a fair bit of knowledge on, abilities are being fairly judged or accurately represented by the majority of the responses ive seen. They are being underplay by the majority, but I believe this is in response to extreme exaggeration of Gladiators abilities and dismissal or underselling of black adams and DC character in general by Carver. So in all, I feel gladiator being underrated, but that is directly due to carver debating tactics, and is not fair representation of what I believe most truly rank gladiators abilities.
That being said, from what I have seen in Black Adam respect thread, that aside from his brief conflicts with superman he done extremely, well against powerful opponents and in numbers as well. He has more feats, that seem to be more consistent as well as better ones against establish characters. Nor does he seem to have nearly the level of low shows as Gladiator nor even the amount it seems.
So I give it to Black Adam hard if he utilizing magic. However with out using it, which seems like he may not ever fight or even the majority of fights, he still wins. Though it would be a much more difficult battle.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Nah, completely different. The fight you're thinking about happens in the Fantastic Four Black Celestial saga.
So wait is gladiator fight with amp Thor cannon or not?
Because fantastic four issue is not cannon, because it technically a future alternate reality gladiator.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympuslulz at matterson matching him in strength, you clearly see gladiator stading up while materson trys his best to push him back look at the pose and feet positions
Not really. Masterson was only knocked off his feet by repeated blows from Gladiator.He wasn't as effective in combat but it wasn't for a lack of strength:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/MastersonThorvsGladiator4.jpgHe simply wasn't a warrior.
the narration even says he struggles to move an immovable muscle
no only that but he wasnt even at full confidence.
Originally posted by carver9
Masterson only advantage in that fight was during the begining when he blitzed Gladiator in the back and then when he snuck attacked him yet again during the emd. Gladiator controlled that battle while smiling.What does that scan prove? Masterson look like he was losing that struggle. Post the scan after that please... I like looking at it.
And we he was beating Gladiator to death. For the record, he only flew into Gladiator in an attempt to get his attention. He didn't want to even fight Gladiator, he wanted to talk it out:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/MastersonThorvsGladiator2.jpg
facepalm Not this shit again. I might report you for trolling.
How does it look like Masterson was losing? What is wrong with you? Here you go:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/MastersonThorvsGladiator5.jpg
He knocks Masterson away because he loosened his grip. One more time: He is not a warrior.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
lulz at matterson matching him in strength, you clearly see gladiator stading up while materson trys his best to push him back look at the pose and feet positionsthe narration even says he struggles to move an immovable muscle
whathefuk
Do you guys all ride the same short bus to school?
Are you talking about Gladiator being above him in the first panel? Assuming that's just not the angles etc. Gladiator rushes Masterson in the previous page while flying:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/MastersonThorvsGladiator3.jpg
In the next panels, they are clearly even.
Lawlz. Irrepressible strength against immovable muscle you f*cking idiot.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Just thought I'd add that in this issue Gladiator, while fully confident and going for the kill was unable to even knock Wonderman (At a time when he was at his weakest and not looking for a fight) out, only BFR him.
Are you SURE Gladiator couldn't one shot Wonderman? Let's see what Wonderman thinks about that. Read the bottom right section please.
http://img225.imageshack.us/i/gladiatorvswonderman021ct.jpg/
Leave this to the big boys... me and Rage got this. By the way... you seriously are underating Wonderman buddy.
Originally posted by carver9
Are you SURE Gladiator couldn't one shot Wonderman? Let's see what Wonderman thinks about that. Read the bottom right section please.http://img225.imageshack.us/i/gladiatorvswonderman021ct.jpg/
Leave this to the big boys... me and Rage got this. By the way... you seriously are underating Wonderman buddy.
Considering that page shows Wonderman getting up again RIGHT ****ING after a hit from Gladiator I'm gonna say yeah, Gladiator can't one shot him. That he then rains enough blows down on Wondy to knock him to the centre of the planet and still doesn't knock him out is the final nail in the coffin.
PS, Wonderman's powers were ****ed at the time of this fight, and he was operating at like a third of his normal levels, so Gladiator must be quite the ***** to be unable to knock that out.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusare you ****ing retarded? your level of thor wanking is ridiculous
whathefukDo you guys all ride the same short bus to school?
Are you talking about Gladiator being above him in the first panel? Assuming that's just not the angles etc. Gladiator rushes Masterson in the previous page while flying:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/MastersonThorvsGladiator3.jpgIn the next panels, they are clearly even.
Lawlz. Irrepressible strength against immovable muscle you f*cking idiot.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
whathefukDo you guys all ride the same short bus to school?
Are you talking about Gladiator being above him in the first panel? Assuming that's just not the angles etc. Gladiator rushes Masterson in the previous page while flying:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/MastersonThorvsGladiator3.jpgIn the next panels, they are clearly even.
Lawlz. Irrepressible strength against immovable muscle you f*cking idiot.
Rage... I truly don't know what to tell you. The only thing I am going to say though is that Masterson didn't have any advantages in that fight and Gladiator had 2 opportunities of killing him but didn't.
One was during one of the scans you presented where Masterson was dazed... Glads could have pressed his attack and the second time was when he stood over Masterson laughing.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Considering that page shows Wonderman getting up again RIGHT ****ING after a hit from Gladiator I'm gonna say yeah, Gladiator can't one shot him. That he then rains enough blows down on Wondy to knock him to the centre of the planet and still doesn't knock him out is the final nail in the coffin.PS, Wonderman's powers were ****ed at the time of this fight, and he was operating at like a third of his normal levels, so Gladiator must be quite the ***** to be unable to knock that out.
I guess you didn't read it. Let me help you out.
Wonderman states "he almost took my head off with that punch if I didn't ROLL with it". He prevented his head from coming clean off. Wonderman didn't show up anytime during Masterson and Thor fight... he was koed.
Show me a scan stating Wonderman was depowered.
Originally posted by carver9
Here is the scan...http://img503.imageshack.us/i/45676322mi0.jpg/
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And rage, stop taking this so serious... damn.
Pretty sure it's non cannon.
Originally posted by carver9
I think it was a stargate, can't recall. I know he teleported in front of Cannonball while he was at a play charging him at super speed with a punch. He came out of a warmhole of some sort.
Probably a Stargate.
Originally posted by carver9
Rage... I understand your comment about travel speed but QUOTES are much better because again, using your style, Gladiator would be the fastest guy on KMC since he flew from the Shiar empire to New York in a panel.
I have no idea how far away the Shi'ar Empire is from Earth. And could you please post the scene in question? I haven't seen it.
Originally posted by carver9
Ok... let's ignore what Gladiator and Vulcan said... its a durability feat.
😕
It is a durability feat.
Originally posted by carver9
Post a scan of someone saying Thor having unlimited strength... or being one of the strongest beings in the Galaxy or physically being one of the most powerful beings in the universe or again, being the strongest guy in the galaxy. Do that for me then you could probably convince me a lil. Show me at least 2 instances since Thor have more showings than Glads.
"Once again, I am locked in single combat with one of the most physically powerful beings in the Universe."
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsWarlockandSilverSurfer4.jpg
"The mightiest figure on Earth."
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/CreatesWhirpool.jpg
".....vaunted strength paling before nearly nearly immeasurable power."
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/KillsThing.jpg
"....indomitable strength."
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa469/R-O-O/Thor/IndomitableStrength.jpg
"Power is the only capital honored in this high stakes game. And Thor was the highest card in our hand."
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsThanos3.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsThanos4.jpg
My favorite:
"I tried me best but he's too strong."
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa469/R-O-O/Thor/InferiorGladiator.jpg
