Once Again: What Makes Thanos Superior to Superman?

Originally posted by Deadline
The context of the fight was that Thanos could have beaten him without it anyway

Nah man thats not what happened. Thanos was smiling and stated that he grew tired of fighting, Pip also stated that Thanos was enjoying himself. That doesn't indicate that he couldn't beat him that indicates that he could of beaten him with some difficulty but wanted to end the fight quickly, you're basically misinterpreting what happened.

Originally posted by Deadline
The context of the fight was that Thanos could have beaten him without it anyway

Nah man thats not what happened. Thanos was smiling and stated that he grew tired of fighting, Pip also stated that Thanos was enjoying himself. That doesn't indicate that he couldn't beat him that indicates that he could of beaten him with some difficulty but wanted to end the fight quickly, you're basically misinterpreting what happened.

Originally posted by Deadline
The context of the fight was that Thanos could have beaten him without it anyway

Nah man thats not what happened. Thanos was smiling and stated that he grew tired of fighting, Pip also stated that Thanos was enjoying himself. That doesn't indicate that he couldn't beat him that indicates that he could of beaten him with some difficulty but wanted to end the fight quickly, you're basically misinterpreting what happened.

Originally posted by Deadline
The context of the fight was that Thanos could have beaten him without it anyway

Nah man thats not what happened. Thanos was smiling and stated that he grew tired of fighting, Pip also stated that Thanos was enjoying himself. That doesn't indicate that he couldn't beat him that indicates that he could of beaten him with some difficulty but wanted to end the fight quickly, you're basically misinterpreting what happened.

Originally posted by Deadline
you're misinterpreting

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Originally posted by Starscream M
how is it a contradiction? superior feats doesn't always translate to superior power.

superman prob has superior feats to some skyfathers.

Is it silly or just downright bad writing for the continued existence of a character? You bet your ass it is, but that's just the way superman has always been handled. When the chips are down in DC and the universe needs a hero for an unstoppable threat that no other force in the universe can handle it's often superman who steps up to the plate and takes care of business. It's happened often enough that it really can't be called a PIS event because it's just what Superman does.

So to answer the question of is Thanos better than Superman I'd have to go with a definitive no. Thanos can be called a villain equivalent to Superman. When the time comes for him to step up to the plate as the major villain to be the threat that heroes need to face Thanos answers the call. However unlike Superman often times this involves powers or amps that are plainly not his own. Infinity Gauntlet, Heart of the Universe, Avatar of Death, Reality Gem / other gems, or some form of tech that makes him utterly broken.

However I do find this to be a better method of explaining a characters reason for being godly powerful rather than Superman for all intents and purposes willing himself stronger.

According to Pr, Superman had a plan to create a new Earth, just in case the current one was destroyed.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
He can. Current has no chance.

Long Pig Strange can though. Which is not Classic or Current, but what this entire forum thinks he is.

as far as feats are concerned...

Thanos: 366 appearances
Superman: 6829 appearances

Originally posted by inimalist
as far as feats are concerned...

Thanos: 366 appearances
Superman: 6829 appearances

Originally posted by long pig
I've asked this question a dozen times and I've gotten two dozen wrong or insufficient answers. What makes believe Thanos is superior to Superman in any way? What makes one Think Superman can't beat or stalemate the Titan? Is Thanos faster? No way. Is thanos Stronger? Not according to feats. Is Thanos smarter? Not really. Is Thanos more durable? Not at all. Is Thanos capable of stronger blasts? Maybe, but I doubt it. Is Thanos an owner of a powerset as varied? Hell no. The one thing Thanos has that Superman doesn't is highend TP. Which doesn't matter since SM's all but immune to TP. Am I wrong here? I just don't get it. He I an wrong, I'd be glad. For I HATE Superman. Your thoughts.

Originally posted by inimalist
as far as feats are concerned...

Thanos: 366 appearances
Superman: 6829 appearances

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
He can't.

Long Pig Strange can though. Which is not Classic or Current, but what this entire forum thinks he is.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
researched or just written for shits and giggles?

Originally posted by PhilosophÃ_a
Joking or actually serious?

its from comicvine. They keep a tally, so it is as accurate as any sort of user generated list like that is, but superior, I've found, to others, like comic db (which doesn't keep a tally, unfortunatly).

The number is definately not exact, because it includes reprints and collections, but in this case, the difference is close to 15-20 times, which was my larger point. Give Thanos 6000+ appearances, and I bet he has some feats that make Clark blush.

I forget who said it, but someone mentioned Clark at his top is "abstract" level, not at how he normally is depicted though, whereas, imho, Thanos is constantly depicted at a level that surpasses Superman.

Originally posted by Philosophía

Yes of course Phil, get a grip. 🙄

Originally posted by inimalist
Give Thanos 6000+ appearances, and I bet he has some feats that make Clark blush.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Maybe. But he'll also have a lot of low showings.

Just out of curiosity to which low showings are you reffering

Originally posted by inimalist
its from comicvine. They keep a tally, so it is as accurate as any sort of user generated list like that is, but superior, I've found, to others, like comic db (which doesn't keep a tally, unfortunatly).

The number is definately not exact, because it includes reprints and collections, but in this case, the difference is close to 15-20 times, which was my larger point. Give Thanos 6000+ appearances, and I bet he has some feats that make Clark blush.

And it's a good thing you brought up this appearances thing, beacuse I wanted to adress this for a while.

Out of those ~2000 appearances and 25 years, he spent more than a decade under the Byrne shadow, where people have written him consistently at a lower powerlevel, to portray him at the opposite pole of his Pre-Crisis counterpart, and it wasn't until Jeph Loeb got a hold of him, and Grant Morrison started featuring him in the JLA that his powers actually increased - literally, as in story arcs dedicated to this, and not just his feats becoming more impressive.

So, at best, you have Superman with about 3-4 times as many appearances as Thanos, around a decade's worth of showings and also not dealing with cosmic level opponents/threads on a daily basis, like Thanos does on nearly every appearance.

And Superman would still destroy him in a feat war of any kind. 🙂

Originally posted by Philosophía
Unless they're counting pre Crisis, that whole number is hugely innacurate - by a factor of thousands. I can tell you that because I have all of those appearances, and they're around 2100-2200, including comics like the ones in which he appears for a page.

And it's a good thing you brought up this appearances thing, beacuse I wanted to adress this for a while.

Out of those ~2000 appearances and 25 years, he spent more than a decade under the Byrne shadow, where people have written him consistently at a lower powerlevel, to portray him at the opposite pole of his Pre-Crisis counterpart, and it wasn't until Jeph Loeb got a hold of him, and Grant Morrison started featuring him in the JLA that his powers actually increased - literally, as in story arcs dedicated to this, and not just his feats becoming more impressive.

So, at best, you have Superman with about 3-4 times as many appearances as Thanos, around a decade's worth of showings and also not dealing with cosmic level opponents/threads on a daily basis, like Thanos does on nearly every appearance.

And Superman would still destroy him in a feat war of any kind. 🙂

I don't see why that makes the numbers inaccurate... It isn't supposed to be a tally of relevant issues that only contain forum relevant feats in the context of cosmic beings.

I've gone through numerous comicvine collections for a bunch of characters, and yes, a good 25-40% can be entirely composed of single panel appearances that have no relevance whatsoever here... thats why they are really only valid by comparison as raw numbers. Its nothing to get defensive about, and it looks silly that you are trying to say Superman doesn't really have more appearances than thanos...

I think a little common sense needs to be applied even if Superman beats him on feats he's still not more powerful. Hell you might even argue that Surfer and Thor could beat Thanos in a feat war but if you look at their feats consistently Superman and others are not in the class of Thanos. You could argue that he could win via speedblitz.

Hell based on feats you could possibly argue Batman > Deathstroke.

Originally posted by inimalist
I don't see why that makes the numbers inaccurate...

Originally posted by inimalist
and it looks silly that you are trying to say Superman doesn't [b]really have more appearances than thanos... [/B]

Originally posted by Philosophía
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So, at best, you have Superman with about 3-4 times as many appearances as Thanos, around a decade's worth of showings and also not dealing with cosmic level opponents/threads on a daily basis, like Thanos does on nearly every appearance.

as many of thanos appearance might just be a page or two in an issues, whereas superman will have 50% of the issue

Originally posted by Philosophía
Because current Superman doesn't have that many appearances; taking everything into consideration, including only panel appearances, he gets a bit above 2000, but nowhere near 6000. I thought I made that perfectly clear?

that would be true, if that is what the tallies measured...

you are faulting them for not being a tally of the thing you want them to be, and I am certainly not even presenting them as evidence of anything, other than that is what the tallies look like.

That you think Superman only has 2000 appearances relevant to the thread doesn't invalidate anything

Originally posted by Philosophía
Are you having reading problems, or are you just saying this for the sake of trolling?

does it have to be one of those options?