Originally posted by quanchi112
The fallen one fight and the omega fight. Just because you don't want him to be able to doesn't mean he can't. Also you saying he can create black holes in his eyes you need to prove that since your so keen on begging for others top prove their cases when you offer nothing outside of your imagination as proof.Post proof he can do so it shouldn't be hard, right ?
No, Thanos stomps him based off his abilities and the way he is portrayed in comics as far more powerful than the Surfer.
I saw all the fallen one scans and the omega ones too. None show Thanos blasting through his shields. You are full of lies now. It is one thing to be a bad debater it is another to be a liar. Your posts are now full of lies.
Why do I have to prove that SS can create black holes in Thanos eyes?
What will prevent him from doing so? Can Thanos lift a truck? Prove it.
Thanos abilities aren't enough to beat a CIS off Surfer. There is nothing Thanos can do to even touch Surfer with. Name one thing Thanos can touch Surfer with and I'll name a defense against it. Let's play the game. And stop telling lies before I tell the mods on you.
Originally posted by long pigWrong.
...and Thanos can't touch Surfer.
Originally posted by h1a8You just have an excuse for every scan ever don't you?
The problem with Fallen One is that he was only a few meters away from Thanos when he tried to blitz him. That means he didn't have enough time (or room) to reach any great speed in such a short distance.
Now showing Fallen One flying through space is irrelevant since he has plenty of room to accelerate to light speed and beyond.
Originally posted by h1a8Omniblast?
Prove its wrong. Give a half decent argument how Thanos can even touch a CIS off Surfer.
Or just hit him? Surfer doesn't blitz like superman does. He doesn't have great combat speed
My excuses are so strong they become valid reasons.
I'm not sure whether to laugh for facepalm.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Omniblast?Or just hit him? Surfer doesn't blitz like superman does. He doesn't have great combat speed
[b] I'm not sure whether to laugh for facepalm.
Uhm Surfer can phase, use shields, and does have FTL reflexes (in battle).
In particular, SS has dodged energy beams in battle, summoned up and blocked energy beams with shields in battle, etc. So again, you have not shown how Thanos can touch a CIS off surfer.
Originally posted by h1a8Prove surfer can phase, can create sheilds strong enough that thanos cannot break or him having FTL combat speed. Because flying at someone really fast isn't the same as fighting fast and having fast reflexes.
Uhm Surfer can phase, use shields, and does have FTL reflexes (in battle).In particular, SS has dodged energy beams in battle, summoned up and blocked energy beams with shields in battle, etc. So again, you have not shown how Thanos can touch a CIS off surfer.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Prove surfer can phase, can create sheilds strong enough that thanos cannot break or him having FTL combat speed. Because flying at someone really fast isn't the same as fighting fast and having fast reflexes.
My previous posts had nothing to do with SS hitting Thanos but merely defending against his attacks. No blitzing speed is required here.
SS's defensive shields have never been broken. You must prove that Thanos can break SS's defensive shields. Show examples of some shields he has broken. Im a reasonable man.
Originally posted by h1a8Wait...did you just say his shields have never been broken then in the same sentence ask me to show his shields being broken? Or did I miss something...
My previous posts had nothing to do with SS hitting Thanos but merely defending against his attacks. No blitzing speed is required here.SS's defensive shields have never been broken. You must prove that Thanos can break SS's defensive shields. Show examples of some shields he has broken. Im a reasonable man.
Originally posted by h1a8The scans prove he can attack when his shields or up/mount an offensive while at the same time being unable to be touched himself.
I saw all the fallen one scans and the omega ones too. None show Thanos blasting through his shields. You are full of lies now. It is one thing to be a bad debater it is another to be a liar. Your posts are now full of lies.Why do I have to prove that SS can create black holes in Thanos eyes?
What will prevent him from doing so? Can Thanos lift a truck? Prove it.Thanos abilities aren't enough to beat a CIS off Surfer. There is nothing Thanos can do to even touch Surfer with. Name one thing Thanos can touch Surfer with and I'll name a defense against it. Let's play the game. And stop telling lies before I tell the mods on you.
That's not the same thing and you know it isn't. A cisless surfer doesn't change who the character or his powers levels. You claiming it does makes you someone who doesn't comprehend comics if you read them in the first place which I highly doubt in the first place.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The scans prove he can attack when his shields or up/mount an offensive while at the same time being unable to be touched himself.That's not the same thing and you know it isn't. A cisless surfer doesn't change who the character or his powers levels. You claiming it does makes you someone who doesn't comprehend comics if you read them in the first place which I highly doubt in the first place.
The scans does no such thing. There is no showing whatsoever that Thanos is attacking through his shields. Not only does the scans not show this but reasoning it is nonsense since the shield would just block the blast.
CIS changes the character into a strictly power set. That means a character will perform any action in their power set that is necessary to not lose.
Surfer can amp, but that is irrelevant to him not being able to get touched here.
Originally posted by h1a8We see him do just that and like I said we see him launch an effective attack with his shields up.
The scans does no such thing. There is no showing whatsoever that Thanos is attacking through his shields. Not only does the scans not show this but reasoning it is nonsense since the shield would just block the blast.CIS changes the character into a strictly power set. That means a character will perform any action in their power set that is necessary to not lose.
Surfer can amp, but that is irrelevant to him not being able to get touched here.
Surfer has never shown speed to such degrees Thanos can't touch him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
We see him do just that and like I said we see him launch an effective attack with his shields up.Surfer has never shown speed to such degrees Thanos can't touch him.
Post the scans and then claim Thanos is blasting through his shields above the scan and let everyone here c that u are lying. Don't be scured now.
Surfer has shown FTL reflexes, from dodging, to creating shields and blocking with them while beams are mid air. If Thanos can't attack at FTL speeds then Surfer can defend against his attacks.
Originally posted by h1a8The scans have already been put up ala the Fallen One. You don't ever post any scans.
Post the scans and then claim Thanos is blasting through his shields above the scan and let everyone here c that u are lying. Don't be scured now.Surfer has shown FTL reflexes, from dodging, to creating shields and blocking with them while beams are mid air. If Thanos can't attack at FTL speeds then Surfer can defend against his attacks.
Surfer's also been hit by blasts slower than light speed. If someone dodges an attack at 50 mph hour that doesn't mean they dodge all attacks at 50 mph. Do you have a shred of common sense ?
Originally posted by quanchi112You mean this.
The scans have already been put up ala the Fallen One. You don't ever post any scans.
http://imageshack.us/f/864/4c944forg3.jpg
I don't see Thanos blasting through any shields. I see Thanos waving his hand as to make a shield and keep the shield up. No blasts were shot there.
I do post scans, not very frequently as most of my arguments rely on logic and the ones who debate with me already know what scans I'm talking about.
Surfer been hit because of writer's plot, not because he is suppose to. Remember in comics characters don't always fight at full capacity. Well here they do, especially CIS off characters.
Surfer's also been hit by blasts slower than light speed. If someone dodges an attack at 50 mph hour that doesn't mean they dodge all attacks at 50 mph. Do you have a shred of common sense ?
If someone with faster than light speed reflexes and actions dodges a 50mph attack then they will ALWAYS dodge a 50mph attack if they see it coming. It all depends on level of speed of the attack as to what chance they have in avoiding the attack. Surfer has 100% chance to dodge or evade or block Thanos attacks based off what he has done in comics. A CIS off Surfer would merely see Thanos as a pure statue, frozen in time and far slower than the subatomic particles he can track with ease.
Originally posted by Black bolt zTrolling nut huggers aside, all that is easily proven. That's not a battle you should have chosen. You have better points to stand on and win. Go back to those. ya dungbell. But there really is no reason why surfer can't avoid Thanos indefenetly. Just sayin....
Prove surfer can phase, can create sheilds strong enough that thanos cannot break or him having FTL combat speed. Because flying at someone really fast isn't the same as fighting fast and having fast reflexes.
Surfer CAN NOT fight at light speeds. There has been nothing shown that he can. This light speed combat is insane on here... going by a lot of people standards, at least 90% of the people mentioned on the versus forum can combat at these speeds when almost ALL of them doesn't have a "single" showing outside of "flight through space" proving this... its INSANE. I'm a Gladiator fan and I would never claim that he can fight at light and he has showings of flying through space at 100 times the speed of light but that is completely different than combat speed vs space flight which has "nothing" holding your speed back.
Thanos can tag Surfer and there isn't one showing that prove that he can't and even if it was one showing proving that he has super speed enough to be intangible to Thanos punches, its not consistent enough to hold weight in an argument.
The rules are flawed. The only way a character can win now is through ko or death. That means certain character will win fights they shouldn't. i.e Thanos, Jugs etc. That's why i'm in favor of a third option to win: point fighting. Who lands more hits. Otherwise, Thanos destroys surfer. And Strange is almost powerless with these new rules. Bullshit.
I consider reaction feats as valid enough to use in combat debates. The biggest that comes to mind for me is when, I think Nova was in a highly guarded, both by people and alarms, underground prison on earth. Surfer was in space. He flew down to earth, down the whole, through the prison maze, into her cell, picked or broke the lock, opened the door, grabbed Nova, worked his way back through the underground maze, out the whole and light years away out of the galaxy WITHOUT BEING SEEN and before the high tech security system went off. Some details i forget, it's been years. But that's reaction at way over light. kgkg has the scans.
