Silver Surfer (unhindered) vs. Thanos (normal)

Originally posted by h1a8
Surfer created black holes at least twice.

All black holes are the same size for they are singularities, just have different masses. Thanos never touched the singurality but rather the event horizon. Black holes with lower masses are much dangerous (kills quicker) because the event horizon is smaller.

How can Surfer get punched when he is NOW USING FTL reflexes that he didn't use in the comic?

Surfer can phase through Thanos shield. So a shield wouldn't stop Surfer. At worst the shield buys Thanos some time. After all, he can't attack with the shields up.

This is CIS off Surfer so yes he will phase through any of Thanos attacks.

You forgot about the amping that Surfer will do also.

scan and issue number. Back up this BS!

Originally posted by h1a8
Please read the OP again.
Surfer is fighting with CIS off.

Plus Surfer can amp. Surely you are not saying that no amount of amping will hurt Thanos are you?

Also we have the black hole strategy (something known to affect Thanos greatly). Then we have the board coming at Thanos head at a million c.

Originally posted by h1a8
So Thanos can attack with speeds far faster than light?
I'm referring to CIS off Surfer. That means power set Surfer.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Scans.

The one that swallowed Thanos inside his ship was 2 light years. Stop trying to argue semantics.

Because Thanos punches him in the face. And reacts to Surfer rushing right at him.

So, Surfer phases his board through Thanos' shield... wouldn't the speed cause it to phase through Thanos as well? Or did you just forget what you were talking about?

So we're inventing powers for Surfer then? Thanos throws a planet at Surfer.

Which does nothing. Surfer has shown he can't effect Thanos.

Yes only with blasts.

But Surfer hasn't been shown he can't affect Thanos with blasts after amping, nor with punches, nor with sending his board at Thanos, and certainly nor with creating black holes in Thanos brain.

Originally posted by h1a8
So Thanos can attack with speeds far faster than light?
I'm referring to CIS off Surfer. That means power set Surfer.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
An amount of amping will hurt thanos. Just not the amount surfer can.

He doesn't need to as surfer doesn't have good combat speed.

A CIS off Surfer does have good combat speed. He will use his FTL reflexes to shield block (as shown in comics) any beams, dodge (as shown in comics) any beams, and phase (as shown in comics) through any attacks. Yes even a CIS on Surfer has blocked energy beams while in combat. Also a CIS off Surfer will use his great speeds in combat as well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos can erect a shield and omni blast him while surfer can't even lay a hand on him. Now which comics is this based off of ?

Thanos can't omni blast with his shields up. His shields will simply block the omniblast. Try again.

Also SS can block the blast with a shield or simply phase. He can also create a black hole in Thanos eyes or brain.

Originally posted by h1a8
A black hole can pull at unbounded distances. A star 1 million light years away is pulling the Earth now. It is the universal law of gravity dude.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thanos can't punch someone in the face who IS using FTL reflexes and top speed.

Originally posted by h1a8
Who says that Surfer will keep going? He would just stop inside Thanos shield and wreck him. Or just wait for Thanos to drop his shield to attack (in which he would since the OP says this Thanos fights normally as shown).

Anyway...
So Surfer stops inside his shield. Congrats, he just got himself killed.
And Surfer waits for him to drop his shield so he can get blasted... not sure how effective that would be on his part.

Also lol at trying to legitamize what you're saying by bringing up the OP. "Oh this outside source said this would happen", when you are the outside source. Almost got me.

Originally posted by h1a8
What powers are you referring to that im inventing? Surfer has been shown to phase, amp, send his board at beings, create black holes, etc. Im confused. 😕

Originally posted by h1a8
Yes only with blasts.

But Surfer hasn't been shown he can't affect Thanos with blasts after amping, nor with punches, nor with sending his board at Thanos, and certainly nor with creating black holes in Thanos brain.

You are literally the only person now who can actually bother me on this board (the only other person was Quan when he was full blown retard). Sad thing is I know you're trolling too. Oh well, time to go to ignore.

Originally posted by h1a8
How do you know? Surfer has absorbed a star before. I don't recall him absorbing a star when attacking Thanos.

A CIS off Surfer does have good combat speed. He will use his FTL reflexes to shield block (as shown in comics) any beams, dodge (as shown in comics) any beams, and phase (as shown in comics) through any attacks. Yes even a CIS on Surfer has blocked energy beams while in combat. Also a CIS off Surfer will use his great speeds in combat as well.

Please show surfer having FTL combat speed before you say anything else.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thanos can't omni blast with his shields up. His shields will simply block the omniblast. Try again.

Also SS can block the blast with a shield or simply phase. He can also create a black hole in Thanos eyes or brain.

No, he can't. This isn't supported by comics at all. Thanos lobotomizes or places him in force block. Boom. Comics back me u pwhile you just make things up as usual. Poor guy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was fighting with his shields up against Omega while blasting the entire time.

Against fallen one he also blocked his speed by a shield/tk and blasted him.

No, he can't. This isn't supported by comics at all. Thanos lobotomizes or places him in force block. Boom. Comics back me u pwhile you just make things up as usual. Poor guy.

It is not a question of whether Surfer can do it but will he choose to do it.
Since CIS is off, he will choose to do them.

This whole thread is an attempt to co-opt surfer fans into a broader argument that Thanos can be beaten by heralds, and therefore by superman -- the people pushing the argument are not surfer fans, and I don't think there is a surfer fan out there blind enough to think surfer can beat Thanos without a plot-device.

Originally posted by Simbon
This whole thread is an attempt to co-opt surfer fans into a broader argument that Thanos can be beaten by heralds, and therefore by superman -- the people pushing the argument are not surfer fans, and I don't think there is a surfer fan out there blind enough to think surfer can beat Thanos without a plot-device.

Of course Surfer under normal circumstances can't beat Thanos. That is because the writers will always have Surfer fight like an idiot when we all know he can do better.

Originally posted by h1a8
No he wasn't. You tried to pull that crap on me a long time ago it didn't fly. It was never shown for Thanos shields to be up AT THE SAME TIME AS HIM BLASTING.

Yes he blocked him with the shield. But when he blasted him the shield wasn't shown to be up.
Why isn't it supported?
Surfer has blocked beams in mid battle with shields. He has created black holes on a whim. He has shown to have the ability to phase.

It is not a question of whether Surfer can do it but will he choose to do it.
Since CIS is off, he will choose to do them.

It was up you could never see the shield but fallen one wasn't running into anymore since he already hurt his face off it the first time. YJGQ.

He hasn't blocked Thanos' beams so showing him block someone inferior to Thanos' beams isn't really proving anything. Do you even comprehend this or is all of this beyond you.

Thanos chooses to erect a shield and then encase him in force block. Prove a black hole can defeat Thanos. Prove Surfer can.

At this point you just sound like someone with an imagination that goes against what writers give us. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
His shields were up and he was still blasting same as the Fallen one.

It was up you could never see the shield but fallen one wasn't running into anymore since he already hurt his face off it the first time. YJGQ.

He hasn't blocked Thanos' beams so showing him block someone inferior to Thanos' beams isn't really proving anything. Do you even comprehend this or is all of this beyond you.

Thanos chooses to erect a shield and then encase him in force block. Prove a black hole can defeat Thanos. Prove Surfer can.

At this point you just sound like someone with an imagination that goes against what writers give us. 🙂

I fail to see how the shields were up when he blasted fallen one.

Fallen one's momentum was stopped, he hit a brick wall. Thanos releases his shield and then blasts.

Why is Thanos beam superior to Thor's? Even if it were then why wouldn't the shield block his beam? There is no evidence supporting that a Surfer shield can't block a Thanos blast.

How can Thanos erect a shield and then encase him with a block when Thanos can't physically attack with his shields up? And why will a CIS off Surfer get hit with any of Thanos beams. He can simply dodge, block, or phase through them.

A black hole tore Thanos arse up in the comic. Surfer can black hole Thanos all day, put one in his eye or brain. Surfer has created black holes on several occasions. Thus he can.

This is CIS off Surfer, get with the program.

Originally posted by h1a8
I fail to see how the shields were up when he blasted fallen one.

Fallen one's momentum was stopped, he hit a brick wall. Thanos releases his shield and then blasts.

Why is Thanos beam superior to Thor's? Even if it were then why wouldn't the shield block his beam? There is no evidence supporting that a Surfer shield can't block a Thanos blast.

How can Thanos erect a shield and then encase him with a block when Thanos can't physically attack with his shields up? And why will a CIS off Surfer get hit with any of Thanos beams. He can simply dodge, block, or phase through them.

A black hole tore Thanos arse up in the comic. Surfer can black hole Thanos all day, put one in his eye or brain. Surfer has created black holes on several occasions. Thus he can.

This is CIS off Surfer, get with the program.

That black hole really didn't tear Thanos up. It just hurt him a little.
With a CIS off Surfer, Thanos may not be able to touch him, but Surfer would not be able to hurt Thanos either. Surfer would get pissed and try to fight him hand to hand and get himself killed again.

Originally posted by Simbon
This whole thread is an attempt to co-opt surfer fans into a broader argument that Thanos can be beaten by heralds, and therefore by superman -- the people pushing the argument are not surfer fans, and I don't think there is a surfer fan out there blind enough to think surfer can beat Thanos without a plot-device.

tbh Surfer can mostly likely beat a lot of those labelled heralds anyway

Originally posted by h1a8
I fail to see how the shields were up when he blasted fallen one.

Fallen one's momentum was stopped, he hit a brick wall. Thanos releases his shield and then blasts.

Why is Thanos beam superior to Thor's? Even if it were then why wouldn't the shield block his beam? There is no evidence supporting that a Surfer shield can't block a Thanos blast.

How can Thanos erect a shield and then encase him with a block when Thanos can't physically attack with his shields up? And why will a CIS off Surfer get hit with any of Thanos beams. He can simply dodge, block, or phase through them.

A black hole tore Thanos arse up in the comic. Surfer can black hole Thanos all day, put one in his eye or brain. Surfer has created black holes on several occasions. Thus he can.

This is CIS off Surfer, get with the program.

Thanos is more powerful than either.

Thanos can attack with his shields up and he did against the Fallen one or against Omega. I mean that's two instances.

It was an artificial one so not the same as a surfer created one. Thanos didn't die either he survived and far less has beaten the surfer than Thanos ie. Thor.

Thanos still wins far more powerful. Get with the program.

The Surfer did not only attempt to engage Thanos in hand to hand combat, he blasted the living mess out of him which happened to have no effect. Outside of making things up because one dislikes another character, the truth is that Thanos would likely destroy not only the Surfer, but you could pitch Superman in for thrills and the team would still lose. Thanos was able to walk away from a blast by a Beyonder, which was written to be far above the High Herald class.

You're from new jersey, your opinion doesn't count. Sorry. You should find someone not from america's ass hole to repeat your post and maybe i'll take it seriously. 🙂 😂 😈

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, his shields were invisible and this prevented him from directly attacking Thanos. It's pretty obvious since we never saw his shields yet we see Fallen one hit them and change tactics as he knew he couldn't directly hit Thanos.

Thanos is more powerful than either.

Thanos can attack with his shields up and he did against the Fallen one or against Omega. I mean that's two instances.

It was an artificial one so not the same as a surfer created one. Thanos didn't die either he survived and far less has beaten the surfer than Thanos ie. Thor.

Thanos still wins far more powerful. Get with the program.

The point is Surfer can black hole tactic Thanos all day to eventually overcome him. Surfer can amp to much higher levels (something he has never done against Thanos). Surfer can avoid any of Thanos attacks with shields, dodging, and phasing. The most Thanos can achieve is a stalemate, for he can't even hit a CIS off Surfer.

Originally posted by Stoic
The Surfer did not only attempt to engage Thanos in hand to hand combat, he blasted the living mess out of him which happened to have no effect. Outside of making things up because one dislikes another character, the truth is that Thanos would likely destroy not only the Surfer, but you could pitch Superman in for thrills and the team would still lose. Thanos was able to walk away from a blast by a Beyonder, which was written to be far above the High Herald class.

This is a CIS off Surfer who wouldn't resort to blasting Thanos. He would amp to higher levels, black hole tactic him, punch him (after being amped), send the board at his head or neck at a million C, etc. Just because a normal blast by Surfer can't affect Thanos doesn't mean that Surfer in general can't affect him. Poor logic on your part.