Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why does it matter?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It's happening on panel.
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3145/centurians2tv3.jpg
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He turned around and grabbed Surfer by the throat before he could do anything despite it being his goal to utilize hit/run tactics. Izie admitted it was one of Thor's "beyond" feats so I figured why not.
Thats the same feat as this and it mainly durability. There no reason to assume silver surfer was going even remotely full speed.
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6085/genis1d2mx.jpg
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The entire sequence happens while they're moving at multiple times the speed of light. He isn't just flying with it, his actively operating at those speeds.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This one is also decent:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/CreatesShockwave.jpg
1. http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6633/twosecondstt9.jpg
2. http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4643/twoseconds3cd9.jpg
3. http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5056/twoseconds2sy3.jpg
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor had to grab Hermes.Clearly he had to be able to operate at those speeds. He was also able to see/track him:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/CatchesHermes.jpg
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
whats the issue number and title pleasehttp://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3145/centurians2tv3.jpg
Thats the same feat as this and it mainly durability. There no reason to assume silver surfer was going even remotely full speed.
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6085/genis1d2mx.jpgNo he flying using the hammer. That not his speed at all, it the hammer.
1. http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6633/twosecondstt9.jpg
2. http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4643/twoseconds3cd9.jpg
3. http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5056/twoseconds2sy3.jpg
Naah, I can do better than that Dum Dum...
Originally posted by Mindset
He didn't blitz SD, he couldn't, that's why he had to predict where SD would be.The only way the scan makes sense with the dialogue is if SD changed direction.
How did Wolvy end up getting in front of a running off speed demon? If that was flash running, would Wolverine be able to get in front of him like that and if nor, please tell me why.
Originally posted by carver9He got in front of him because SD changed direction, otherwise the scan doesn't make any sense.
How did Wolvy end up getting in front of a running off speed demon? If that was flash running, would Wolverine be able to get in front of him like that and if nor, please tell me why.
Wolverine isn't close to SD in speed (travel speed). If SD demon was going flat out in a straight line Wolverine couldn't catch up, as him missing showed, nor would he need to predict the movement of someone running in a straight line.
Originally posted by Mindset
He got in front of him because SD changed direction, otherwise the scan doesn't make any sense.Wolverine isn't close to SD in speed (travel speed). If SD demon was going flat out in a straight line Wolverine couldn't catch up, as him missing showed, nor would he need to predict the movement of someone running in a straight line.
I didn't see him changing directions and even if he did... he is still a speedster. You didn't answer my question about Flash.
Originally posted by carver9Tell me, how does the scan make sense if he didn't change direction? What was there to predict? How was Wolverine able to surpass the speed of a SD running in a straight line?
I didn't see him changing directions and even if he did... he is still a speedster. You didn't answer my question about Flash.
No, he wouldn't be able to get in front of Flash.
And if you really need me to explain why I don't see this conversation progressing in any positive direction.
Originally posted by Mindset
Tell me, how does the scan make sense if he didn't change direction? What was there to predict? How was Wolverine able to surpass the speed of a SD running in a straight line?No, he wouldn't be able to get in front of Flash.
And if you really need me to explain why I don't see this conversation progressing in any positive direction.
Looking at the scan... it was a straight line and Wolverine beat him to the punch.
Wolverine surpassed speed demon by utilizing his own speed. Wolverine isn't slow by any means... hell, Wolverine have scans of him running QuickSilver like.
Why wouldn't he be able to jump in front of Flash (I agree with you by the way)?
I know your stance but you are basically ignoring the scan.
Originally posted by carver9I have to interpret the scan in a way in order not to dismiss it entirely due to its stupidity.
Looking at the scan... it was a straight line and Wolverine beat him to the punch.Wolverine surpassed speed demon by utilizing his own speed. Wolverine isn't slow by any means... hell, Wolverine have scans of him running QuickSilver like.
Why wouldn't he be able to jump in front of Flash (I agree with you by the way)?
I know your stance but you are basically ignoring the scan.
Do you think Wolverine can surpass SD in a foot race, that's what he would have had to do?
Do you think he would need to predict the movement of an opponent who's moving in a straight line?
Do you think Wolverine can run faster than Flash?
If any of these questions are yes, we are done here.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
whats the issue number and title please
Thor #144.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3145/centurians2tv3.jpg
Oh, I get it. You think I'm posting that because it had the worst "instantly" in it. Such vague terms are meaningless unless a figure or something a lot more concrete is attached to it. I posted that because Thor is able to raise his arms, and redirect a telepathic bolt. As far as I've seen, psychic attacks (Telepathy) are consistently pretty high end in terms of speed.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Thats the same feat as this and it mainly durability. There no reason to assume silver surfer was going even remotely full speed.
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6085/genis1d2mx.jpg
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What?
Do you not understand that Surfer blasted Thor from behind, and Thor had the capabilities to turn around, then grab him by his neck?
At this point, Surfer's goal was to use hit/run tactics to take down Thor:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsWarlockandSilverSurfer6.jpg
He wanted to wear him down because fighting him straight up was suicide at this point. That's why the fight was compromised of Surfer flying out of arms reach and blasting Thor. At one point, I believe he even flew away.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
No he flying using the hammer. That not his speed at all, it the hammer.
I get it. His using his hammer to fly. Why you think repeating that forms an argument is beyond me.
Do you not understand that the entire sequence happens while Skuttlebutt's flying at speeds multiple times faster than light?
Thor isn't inside a ship in hyperspace.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
1. http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6633/twosecondstt9.jpg
2. http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4643/twoseconds3cd9.jpg
3. http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5056/twoseconds2sy3.jpg
Three attacks in about two seconds. Logan's faster than I thought.
I doubt as impressive as spotting a boy about to be run over across the city, diving out of the sky, striking the ground, and creating a shockwave to divert the truck in the span of one and one fifth of a second however.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1830/strategyte6.jpg
Neat feat.
It's not as impressive as catching or tracking Hermes. It's more of a prediction and reaction feat like this I wager:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsZefra.jpg
Thor still wins out bud.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor #144.Oh, I get it. You think I'm posting that because it had the worst "instantly" in it. Such vague terms are meaningless unless a figure or something a lot more concrete is attached to it. I posted that because Thor is able to raise his arms, and redirect a telepathic bolt. As far as I've seen, psychic attacks (Telepathy) are consistently pretty high end in terms of speed.
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What?
Do you not understand that Surfer blasted Thor from behind, and Thor had the capabilities to turn around, then grab him by his neck?
At this point, Surfer's goal was to use hit/run tactics to take down Thor:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsWarlockandSilverSurfer6.jpgHe wanted to wear him down because fighting him straight up was suicide at this point. That's why the fight was compromised of Surfer flying out of arms reach and blasting Thor. At one point, I believe he even flew away.
I get it. His using his hammer to fly. Why you think repeating that forms an argument is beyond me.
Do you not understand that the entire sequence happens while Skuttlebutt's flying at speeds multiple times faster than light?
Thor isn't inside a ship in hyperspace.
Three attacks in about two seconds. Logan's faster than I thought.
I doubt as impressive as spotting a boy about to be run over across the city, diving out of the sky, striking the ground, and creating a shockwave to divert the truck in the span of one and one fifth of a second however.
Neat feat.
It's not as impressive as catching or tracking Hermes. It's more of a prediction and reaction feat like this I wager:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsZefra.jpgThor still wins out bud.
So Thor would have to put out his cape to catch Wolvy also huh?
Originally posted by carver9
So Thor would have to put out his cape to catch Wolvy also huh?
I'm guessing he put out the cape to prevent injury.
I didn't read the issue where the first scan came from. Is there something else happening or am I supposed to be impressed purely because Wolverine is moving as a blur? If that really is the case, then here you go:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/SuperSpeed.jpg
I've read that one. Decent I guess but I'm as impressed by that as I am with Thor blocking energy blasts or what have you.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm guessing he put out the cape to prevent injury.I didn't read the issue where the first scan came from. Is there something else happening or am I supposed to be impressed purely because Wolverine is moving as a blur? If that really is the case, then here you go:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/SuperSpeed.jpgI've read that one. Decent I guess but I'm as impressed by that as I am with Thor blocking energy blasts or what have you.
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2959/wolverine40pe3.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7945/wolverine41gz4.jpg
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Originally posted by carver9
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2959/wolverine40pe3.jpg
I get it, you're impressed by blurry lines. Thor has those too:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/SuperSpeed2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/SuperSpeed.jpg
In the end, they don't settle anything.
You can't show me things like this Rage. Wolverine completely rips Samson entire uniform off of him in one panel with pure super speed/hand movement.
