Actual Power vs Potential Power

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Originally posted by illadelph12
I'd like to see Apocalypse used off of Marvel Earth and get involved in the cosmic game.

I've got this burning desire to see Apoc use his technopathy to integrate the bastion/nimrod/technarch thing that was in X-Force and Second Coming

Not that I disagree or anything, he constantly punches below his weight

Originally posted by Zack Fair
So hmm why should Captain Marvel clearly be more powerful than Superman?

As for the thread I think Hydroman is a candidate for having a lot of potential.

He shouldn't. It's like saying Wonder Woman should be more powerful than Thor because her powers were granted by more than one deity.

Powerset for powerset there's nothing that suggest CM should be more powerful than Supes.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Anyone with a solid body or energy based powers should be completely at his mercy.
What else would be left then?

Originally posted by Q99
Rogue. They occasionally show her cutting loose, but the proper tactic for almost every X-fight should be 'have everyone let rogue drain a little of your power, then obliterate the enemy with truly sick power combos.'

I'd argue Storm is often written to full potential these days, as far as diversity within her powerset goes - even to the point of obscurity and pissing people off.

She's torn apart Stardust, "cleansed another dimension," defeated the trion in their own realm, harnessed a galaxy of stars, etc.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
I thought he was a mutant, but he had just evolved beyond normal mutants as a s. Supreme rather than Superior? So basically what an Omega should be- to mutants what mutants are to humans.

He was chosen by a supernatural force to be the one true immortal and witness the "secret" that would be revealed at the end off all things. He didn't in fact evolve biologically but was chosen at birth to be immortal.

Originally posted by Konton
I'd argue Storm is often written to full potential these days, as far as diversity within her powerset goes - even to the point of obscurity and pissing people off.

She's torn apart Stardust, "cleansed another dimension," defeated the trion in their own realm, harnessed a galaxy of stars, etc.

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scans???

Originally posted by -Pr-
Captain Marvel could be written to be more popular, obviously, but I doubt any surge in popularity would make him that much more powerful. Heck, they made Billy more powerful and he got wiped out by Black Adam. More exposure would definitely help raise his stock, though I find it amazing how people want him to be more powerful than Superman, when they were not so long ago ranting and raving about how they're equal.

Makes me wonder how things would be if the shoe was on the other foot.

Superman is always going to be the go to guy imo, regardless of what the haters say.

You actually take them seriously? I doubt they have more than rudimentary knowledge on Captain Marvel, maybe reading some scans that popped up on the forum.

It's the butthurt over Superman and the ass-whoopings from other thread which makes them mad, so they try to troll a bit.

This character immediately popped into mind: Spider-Man
- turn off the jobbing
- let him learn martial arts
- meditation to hone the spider-sense
- hell, he's a genius; let him upgrade his webbing like Iron Man upgrades armor.

Even though he is not a meta (he performs like one from time to time though), I nominate ETERNITY for someone who potentially FAR more powerful than his on panel displays suggest...

If a halfway decent writter got a hold of him, characters like Dormmamu and other Skyfather types would be casually slapped down by him as they rightfully should be...

At current, Eternity is a joke, and given what hes supposed to represent, this is all wrong; guy is supposed to be just below the Infinity Gauntlet, not someone that Skyfathers should be able to be successful against...

Edit: Kelly Brook is fine as hell...aint she?

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
all of them

every. last. one. of. them.

this post is full of TRUTH and win.

Tazer

Quasar. In his own series he was starting to get there at times, but just not often enough. And in his most recent appearances the writers are unfortunately back to portraying him as lacking confidence and awed by other herald types like he was years ago.

He has a very wide range of powers - generation, manipulation, and absorption across the entire electromagnetic spectrum, some level of direct manipulation of gravity, shields and constructs, interstellar range teleportation, access to a dimension of limitless power. And his power comes from extremely powerful cosmic artifacts.

He is also supposed to be quite intelligent, with some training in physics and as a SHIELD agent, which more could be made of.

There have been hints over the years that the bands are even more powerful than he knows, with other powers yet to be found - maybe psi powers, maybe strength amping, maybe even immortality, plus glimpses of control over other energies outside e/m. We've seen that he can do heat and magnetic control, light manipulation like holograms and invisibility, but he rarely does or never does again. He doesn't make much use of electricity.

I just think there are a ton of ways he could use his powers outside what he does and a lot of potential power left to discover.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
What else would be left then?

Abstracts?

I think Poccy is a good one for Implied power. He should be so versatile with Celestial Tech.. but ends up getting tooled each and every time.

I think another example is The Beyonder... Sure he has some feats that back up him being really powerful, but the vast majority of things cited are via narration. Its like through implied power.. he should have feats like Mxy... but he doesn't.. and thus it's hard to say just how powerful he is.

Originally posted by -Pr-
they made Billy more powerful and he got wiped out by Black Adam.
black adam is supposed to be more powerful than billy based on the writer

Originally posted by Philosophía
You actually take them seriously? I doubt they have more than rudimentary knowledge on Captain Marvel, maybe reading some scans that popped up on the forum.

It's the butthurt over Superman and the ass-whoopings from other thread which makes them mad, so they try to troll a bit.

although no one is butt hurt or even cares about superman, alot of people simply just like captain marvel alot better than superman.

as for why he "should" be more powerful,is because of how he was portrayed in golden age

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I think Poccy is a good one for Implied power. He should be so versatile with Celestial Tech.. but ends up getting tooled each and every time.

I think another example is The Beyonder... Sure he has some feats that back up him being really powerful, but the vast majority of things cited are via narration. Its like through implied power.. he should have feats like Mxy... but he doesn't.. and thus it's hard to say just how powerful he is.

Idk about the Beyonder, Pre Retcon at least, while it was described by narrations, we also saw him destroy and remake the concept of death, cause multiversal destruction in a rage etc...

I agree A.K. he did have feats that were pretty powerful.. He mentioned the death one, the blast MM repaired, casually beating the Celestials h2h. All impressive. Problem is, his narration made him out to be a God and able to have feats mxy like... However, he didn't display that kinda of power. I guess what I'm saying is his implied power was more than he actually showed imo.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
although no one is butt hurt or even cares about superman, alot of people simply just like captain marvel alot better than superman.

as for why he "should" be more powerful,is because of how he was portrayed in golden age

That's it for me I just like Captain Marvel better than Superman. I really don't care about clark.

If they bring Billy back to Captain Marvel he could be shown to tap more of the powers the Gods give him.

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Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Captain Marvel, if he was as popular as superman he would clearly be shown to be more powerful than Superman ,which is how it should be anyways

Agreed!!