Originally posted by ParmaniacWelcome to KMC. If one doesn't like it, it doesn't count.
I hate these stealth feats they're in 1 thread a massive stealth feat for character A when Character B didn't spotted him but if character B is in another thread then suddenly stuff like that is pretty fast labeled PIS.
Originally posted by ParmaniacAnd that's different from any other style feats, how?
I hate these stealth feats they're in 1 thread a massive stealth feat for character A when Character B didn't spotted him but if character B is in another thread then suddenly stuff like that is pretty fast labeled PIS.
Originally posted by batdude123Everyone gets this idea in their head of what a character should be, and should be able to do, rather than regard the source material for the facts on what they can and cannot do.
It isn't, people just seem to have their own set of idiosyncratic annoyances when it comes to comic feats.
Originally posted by Juntai
Everyone gets this idea in their head of what a character should be, and should be able to do, rather than regard the source material for the facts on what they can and cannot do.
Preaching to the choir, brother. I've been saying the same thing (particularly when it regards Batman) for years now.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Like I said, on paper, Superman should have a huge speed advantage, but in practice? Busiek showed the speed advantage similar to what I'd expect most writer would if they wrote the battle. Not too different from Thor's encounters with super clones.The way you...phrased, annoyed me a bit I guess. I see where you're coming from but I don't think Busiek was purposefully writing Superman down or anything.
To be fair Thor is much better at h2h and can move Mjolinor FTL, its possible he could anticipate it.
Originally posted by Newjakspider-man wouldn't be able to do this (without webbing)
First off I'm gonna go with the Hulk. In his long storied history his level of speed has been pretty well defined. He is not a speedster by any stretch of the imagination and he will always be depicted as such. Yeah he has been able to run fast but we've always seen it stated as what it is. Basically marginally superhuman and his reflexes have always been the same. He has no feats and its not in his characterization to have them either plus he would use it if he could because is just that limited in his powerset.
as for this thread; it's fine to find what characters are personally capable of doing, but in a fight speed is not the end all be all cause CIS overrides every power there is. also, spider-man/wolverine/batman don't have a prayer against thor, as power level does indeed factor in.
Yea, Hulk can leap at crazy speeds. His caught up to fast moving targets and his jumped into orbit I believe. Rulk jumped from the Moon to the Earth. But I could probably out run him based on what I've seen. Makes no sense.
True super speed, akin to the Flash, seems to be an entirely independent power which at it's core is operating at normal levels while you view the world in a slowed state if that makes sense.
Originally posted by Juntaierr hulk doesn't have to dodge bullets unlike spider-man, but if he wanted to catch a jet, spidey would have to ask the hulk for a favor if his web-shooters ran out since he's you know...faster than he is
Comparing Hulk's best gummy-bear speed to Spiderman's CQC reaction feats does what exactly?
Originally posted by psycho gundam
spider-man wouldn't be able to do this (without webbing)as for this thread; it's fine to find what characters are personally capable of doing, but in a fight speed is not the end all be all cause CIS overrides every power there is. also, spider-man/wolverine/batman don't have a prayer against thor, as power level does indeed factor in.
Thats bullshit!!!!! Once he missed and landed the jet would be out of range!!!!!! WHen he jumped again he would see it flying off into the horizon. 🙄
Originally posted by JuntaiI personally think that stealth stuff is more annoying than others feat categories (subjective) but I think one of the differences is that a lot of the infiltration happens off panel which is something that usually doesn't happen with other feats or at least not so often. I can live with infiltartion stuff if it actually happens on panel and not that Someone stands in front of a facility that's "impossible to infiltrate" and in teh next panel he's right in front of his goal.
And that's different from any other style feats, how?
Originally posted by NewjakExcept that, unlike you, I can actually prove my opinion.
Yup I didn't expect anything more from you.Of course you are entitled to you're own opinion.
I find it how you start your whole argumentation with "I think there are feats, which are needed, but an understanding of characters as well", then retreat into your fantasy land where Thor is grossly out of Hulk's speed level, while being relativly close with the Superman/Flash category.
Is that your understanding of the character, that Thor is millions of times faster than Hulk, or Wolverine/Spiderman/Captain America, and his unimpressive feats that don't even surpass street-levelers, baring like two (and I'm being generous) spread out across almost half a century are what's needed to get a 'true understanding' of the character?
I don't know what to say, it's intelligent things like this that really makes me facepalm, and realize how much of a rational person being a fanboy can really make a person. I'm sorry for insulting, but I'm not the type to go "there, there" when I see a person drolling on the floor from how much of an idiot he is, and it's this type of common sense, logic or even basic understanding failures that drain most persons out of being patient and getting involved in rational, logic based debates.
But you can keep on going.
How's your Superman vs Thor speed fanfiction in the rain going? Have you gotten into the part where Th or taps i nto his never-seen-before god status and speedblitzes him?
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