Harry Potter vs Helms Deep

Being magical does not mean magical spells will not affect it.

It does for dragons, giants, acromantula etc.

Even so, how's it gonna handle a death spell?

Dunno. Does it have a soul?

Never done so with such a massive being? Kind of a lame argument, dude. That's like me saying "A lightsaber can't cut through King Kong because a lightsaber is never shown cutting through such a massive being."

As Robtard said, it wouldn't go right through. And thats still a faulty analogy. It would be more like you asking whether a sith could Force Choke one. Could they?

Originally posted by Nephthys
It does for dragons, giants, acromantula etc.

Spell resistant, not proof. In fact, all were shown in the books (and films) to be affected by spells.

Dragons:
http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon#Spells_that_affect_dragons

Aurors killed lots of giants during Voldemort's first war to such an extent that the Giants fled to the mountains to hide.

Second year students (Harry and Ron) seemed to be able to smack down the Acromantula when running away. In fact, there seemed to be no indication that they were immune to any magic. In the last film, we should see the Deatheaters drive them out of the forest against Hogwarts.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Dunno. Does it have a soul?

I tried this line of reasoning, before, but it was tossed aside. I say that as long as something has a soul, it can be killed with a death spell. My reasoning is the after-image/soul of all the people Lord Volde killed with his wand when Harry's and his wand's clashed.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It does for dragons, giants, acromantula etc.

Dunno. Does it have a soul?

As Robtard said, it wouldn't go right through. And thats still a faulty analogy. It would be more like you asking whether a sith could Force Choke one. Could they?

What DDM said. Also, how is the Balrog/s gonna harm intangible half apparating wizards? If a Balrog stepped into an inferno, would it burn?

Dunno. You tell me.

Dunno. Could they?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
If a Balrog stepped into an inferno, would it burn?

See, this is why watching the film or at the very least knowing the basics is good.

Balrogs are made in part of [magical] fire.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So you;re saying that they cannot vanish it? Cannot transfigure it? That all of their spells are useless?

Explain.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What DDM said. Also, how is the Balrog/s gonna harm intangible half apparating wizards? If a Balrog stepped into an inferno, would it burn?

Dunno. You tell me.

Dunno. Could they?

As for Avada Kedavra, yeah no.

Balrogs cannot actually "die." No Maiar can, their body can be destroyed, but their "soul," if you can really call it that, is untouchable. And since Avada Kedavra affects the soul, not the body, will have no effect.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Balrogs cannot actually "die." No Maiar can, their body can be destroyed, but their "soul," if you can really call it that, is untouchable. And since Avada Kedavra affects the soul, not the body, will have no effect.

You have it backwards: the spell affects the body, not the soul.

It kills the body.

My personal take on it: it tears the soul out of the body while also killing the body.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Yes. The difficulty of the vanishing spell increases according to the complexity of the creature being vanished. The Balrog is a 25 or so foot walking inferno that bleeds what appears to be magma and can conjure weaponry from its own body, it is also an angelic being. Wanna know what the most advanced thing ever seen being vanished was? A kitten. 😐 Balrogs are generally>Kittens. Transfigure it? Why no, no they most likely cannot. IIRC, nothing as large as a Balrog has ever been transfigured.

The Balrog is ****ing made of fire. 😐 What do you think? As for how it will harm them, to be honest I cannot prove it can harm them while intangible, but they can do no real damage to it.

As for Avada Kedavra, yeah no.

Balrogs cannot actually "die." No Maiar can, their body can be destroyed, but their "soul," if you can really call it that, is untouchable. And since Avada Kedavra affects the soul, not the body, will have no effect.

Barty Crouch Jr turned Draco into a ferret. Protego holds the Balrog at bay. Also, how hot does the Balrog burn?

Originally posted by Robtard
Whoa, whoa, whoa, lets not get ourselves flipped over here, yes the wizards are powerful; yes they could wreak the Uruk army with spells.

But Harry Potter himself coming out alive? Nah, he takes an arrow to the face.

I'd buy that for a silver penny....!
Maybe I was a little hasty....

I didn't realise the Balrog was involved....
The HP crew's shields couldn't repell Balrog power of that magnitude.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
I'd buy that for a silver penny....!
Maybe I was a little hasty....

I didn't realise the Balrog was involved....
The HP crew's shields couldn't repell Balrog power of that magnitude.

The Balrog is not involved. Not in the OP.

And yes, a protego shield charm can repel it.

Thats your speculation.

haermm Sure it is!!! Tell me, how's the Balrog gonna see the wizards through a protego totalum? How's it gonna harm half apparating intangible wizards?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
haermm Sure it is!!! Tell me, how's the Balrog gonna see the wizards through a protego totalum?

How's it gonna harm half apparating intangible wizards?

Magical fire eyes.

Magical heat from said magical fire.

Magic, magic, magic, magic and more magic. Magic > All, no?

Originally posted by Robtard
Magical fire eyes.

Magical heat from said magical fire.

Magic, magic, magic, magic and more magic. Magic > All, no?

Shit, I'd forgotten about protego's ability to block any and every attack. Them wizards sure are haxxed.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Then it's a good thing that Protego kinda....blocks magic.

Is it going to block a massive being's crushing feet?

Originally posted by Robtard
Is it going to block a massive being's crushing feet?

If not, the wizards can kinda, you know....apparate away. Or become intangible.....

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
If not, the wizards can kinda, you know....apparate away. Or become intangible.....

Running away isn't winning, it's running away.

Originally posted by Robtard
Running away isn't winning, it's running away.

Also aren’t "half apparting" wizards susceptible to magic? The Balrog is basically a purely magical being so I could see it feasibly hurt such a wizard if it managed to hit them.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Apparating a few feet away or high above it is not running away. Running away is apparating away with no intention of returning.

Which would be the smart thing to do.