Harry Potter vs Helms Deep

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And Sidious would do better? Or Vader? Hmm?

Force-crush might prove very handy.

But is this really your angle? Wizards can't do it, so lets try and bring Jedi down? Very odd, RJ.

Originally posted by Robtard
Force-crush might prove very handy.

But is this really your angle? Wizards can't do it, so lets try and bring Jedi down? Very odd, RJ.

Now.......You DO know that wizards have destructive spells, yes? Spells that will make force crush look silly?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Good answer. Just the answer I would have given.

Now.......You DO know that wizards have destructive spells, yes? Spells that will make force crush look silly?

No. You wouldn't have asked if so. Get off my thunder.

Destructive spells, yes. But will those said magical powers work on said magical being? Look silly? Nahh.

Originally posted by Robtard
No. You wouldn't have asked if so. Get off my thunder.

Destructive spells, yes. But will those said magical powers work on said magical being? Look silly? Nahh.

Oh they won't work, eh? Force crush works, but not a reducto spell? I call bullshit.

I call that Force Crush is the Force, which affects anything and nothing is immune to it unless you go to EU and pull the Vong.

Some things are immune to magic, or, in other words, nothing stops the force except the force, while magic can be stopped by other things. Deal with it.

And the force can only be harnessed so much by a force user. The overall strength of the force is not a feasible line of argument to use in he MVF. Magic screen feats>>>>>>>>>>>Force screen feats. It isn't even close.

Prove the Balrog will shrug off reducto? Yeah thought not. Until then, he's rubble.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And the force can only be harnessed so much by a force user. The overall strength of the force is not a feasible line of argument to use in he MVF.

Magic screen feats>>>>>>>>>>>Force screen feats. It isn't even close.

Yeah, not really. Palpatine is proof of this, he used his power over the dark-side of the Force on a galactic scale(as the Force is galactic at least) to cloud all other Force-users. Yoda noted this, though he was ignorant to who was doing it.

Galactic level power manipulation >>>>>>>>>>>>> Patronus and anything else in the HP films. It's not even close.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, not really. Palpatine is proof of this, he used his power over the dark-side of the Force on a galactic scale(as the Force is galactic at least) to cloud all other Force-users. Yoda noted this, though he was ignorant to who was doing it.

Galactic level power manipulation >>>>>>>>>>>>> Patronus and anything else in the HP films. It's not even close.

Mhm, I'm talking about offensive force attacks. You know, stuff useful in a fight.

Try again.

Have you made a career of trolling?

Honestly, you seem to think that HP magic is "Teh ub3r h@xx" when its not. It is completly limited, they have to freaking scream to use offensive spells, and there are not that many shown used in combat, so we dont even know who could use them while being attacked.

Watch the HP movies, they're not as bad as they say here.

Want me to list the spells that'll do in the Balrog? In alphabetical order?

Do it. I will tell you one thing

One of the only, and stilla very powerful wizard, couldnt kill it without dying. That thing took repeated stabs, lightning bolts, and a long fall, and still kept fighting like nothing happened.

So come on, say Avada Kedavra, because it wont work. Say ACCIO LUCK POTION LULZ because it wont work. Say whatever, it wont work. By the time the wizard is done screaming its spell out, the balrog just cut it in half or incinerated it.

Originally posted by Pwned
Do it. I will tell you one thing

One of the only, and stilla very powerful wizard, couldnt kill it without dying. That thing took repeated stabs, lightning bolts, and a long fall, and still kept fighting like nothing happened.

So come on, say Avada Kedavra, because it wont work. Say ACCIO LUCK POTION LULZ because it wont work. Say whatever, it wont work. By the time the wizard is done screaming its spell out, the balrog just cut it in half or incinerated it.

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Bombarda_Maxima

Then there's Reducto.

Then there's simple hovering charms, not to mention freezing charms. Many ways to stop the Balrog.

As in make the balrog hover?

Wont work.

Freeze charm?

They are dead before that.

Reducto makes them smaller or what?

Besides, it can breathe hellfire dude, they wont have long before they die. Look in its mouth.

Originally posted by Pwned
As in make the balrog hover?

Wont work.

Freeze charm?

They are dead before that.

Reducto makes them smaller or what?

Besides, it can breathe hellfire dude, they wont have long before they die. Look in its mouth.

Hover charm won't work....why?

Dead before they go intangible? Doooooooooooh!!!!

Reducto is a blasting spell. Whatever is hits, it turns it into ash. Bombada does the same.

Immobulus and arresto momentum. All can be cast while flying around intangible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spells_in_Harry_Potter

And when all else fails, Protego.

You've no proof that protego will have effect against the fury of the Balrog.

Doesn't magic not work on all manner of creatures in the HP universe, like House Gnomes(Dobby) and Giants and Trolls? In agreement with Sadako, what proof is there it will work on one of the most powerful entities in the LOTR universe?

Exactly, and thank you.

You have to 'scuse RJ... he clearly thought the thread title meant "Helm deep in Harry Potter". 😖hifty:

Uh, RJ, I dont think they could make the Balrog hover, and if they did, whip.

Ok, turn shadow and fire to ash. Tell me how that works out in your mind.

Ok, they have to drop that eventually. A balrog is a freaking DEMON dude, it cant wait them out if nothing else, they cant take a sh!t while intangible, you know.

Oh, and lets see how long they last when they are flipping out with that huge thing trying to kill them. The person who actually killed it was someone who knew what it was, it immobilized the Hobbits from fear up to the point where the other told them to run like hell.

Watch the movie, you can see them staring at it like "OMFG THAT THING IS HUGE AND ITS GONNA KILL ME OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG AAAAAAAAAH" "RUN LIKE HELL DUMBASS! GOGOGOGOGO!"

Now lets see Wizards pull their fear into rein and attack it. They would probably run away, or still die.
Volde would try to bring it to his side, Dumbles would try to kill it. Both would meet a fiery doom.

Originally posted by Pwned
Uh, RJ, I dont think they could make the Balrog hover, and if they did, whip.

Ok, turn shadow and fire to ash. Tell me how that works out in your mind.

Ok, they have to drop that eventually. A balrog is a freaking DEMON dude, it cant wait them out if nothing else, they cant take a sh!t while intangible, you know.

Oh, and lets see how long they last when they are flipping out with that huge thing trying to kill them. The person who actually killed it was someone who knew what it was, it immobilized the Hobbits from fear up to the point where the other told them to run like hell.

Watch the movie, you can see them staring at it like "OMFG THAT THING IS HUGE AND ITS GONNA KILL ME OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG AAAAAAAAAH" "RUN LIKE HELL DUMBASS! GOGOGOGOGO!"

Now lets see Wizards pull their fear into rein and attack it. They would probably run away, or still die.
Volde would try to bring it to his side, Dumbles would try to kill it. Both would meet a fiery doom.

Immobulus>>>>>>>>>Your entire post.

Except you've no guarantee whatsoever that that'd work on The Balrog.

Wizards: "Imobulus..!!!"

*Balrog keeps coming*

Wizards: "Reducto!!"

*Balrog continues to stomp forth at them, raising his whip*

Wizards: "Protego!!"

*Balrogs whip cuts through the wizards , ripping their torsos in half and casting the charred remains across the fortress.*

<<*Cue Annie Lennox*>> 😮‍💨