Harry Potter vs Helms Deep

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
It was based on the fact that RJ was BSing about HP magic being 100% reliable, with literally no reason to state it, due to the fact that he doesn't know what the mechanics are of HP magic, yet he blindly assumes victory in every case.
We all have our reasons for disliking Potter, and RJ just adds to them. 🙂

It's definitely both ways: I will admit that it's baseless to assume the non-physical magic (TK would work just fine) from LoTRs would work on HP people and vice-versa. To say that it won't, for either side, is just petty, childish behavior. It's a freakin' vs. thread: the powers work from each side unless something explicit exists to block it.

For instance: if someone is immune to telepathy, telepathy from any person from any universe will not work. The exception?: magical telepathy (magic vs. psionics is the point). That's a good example of an exception that simply does not exist for either side in this discussion.

What I think people should start doing more of is using their imagination to legitimately win a vs. discussion rather than relying on points that boil down to "nuh uhhhhhh!"

For example, in this thread: give a Balrog his sword. One thing we see spells do is bounce off of or break low-quality rock. A sturdy sword sized for a giant demon monster should work no problem to block incoming spells.

What about using Harry Potter's real behaviors from the films where he just stands there, petrified, at very large scary things for a few moments, before acting? That's like...integral to his character. The mountain troll, the dragon, Volde, etc. He's proven that, when faced with a scary foe, he will petrify for a few moments. Some will say "no PIS allowed." BS. Unless the thread starter specifies, it's "movie feats, only." Meaning, what they do in the films, they can do in the threads. That includes being prone to mistakes. We liked to use the Storm Trooper mistakes in the other threads, right? So why not other characters especially if it is characteristic of their character?

Exactly what I have been thinking.

I also see what you mean with the spells and telepathy, its like Magnetos/Juggernauts helmet (forgot which) blocks anything from messing with his mind.

Originally posted by dadudemon
All of this BS about it being immune to HP magic is just that: complete BS. Stop hating on HP because RJ loves it.

Also, because Harry is 11-17 when we read about his life. He's not a battle-hardened Bruce Willis character - yet. Nor is he yet a SUPER!wizard. There are signs that he could be, if he applies himself and doesn't coast on his fame. Yes, I agree most of Harry's survivability is based on luck. He is just a kid.

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Originally posted by Pwned
Exactly what I have been thinking.

Great minds. 😄

Originally posted by Pwned
I also see what you mean with the spells and telepathy, its like Magnetos/Juggernauts helmet (forgot which) blocks anything from messing with his mind.

Yup, you go it.

Originally posted by siriuswriter
Also, because Harry is 11-17 when we read about his life. He's not a battle-hardened Bruce Willis character - yet. Nor is he yet a SUPER!wizard. There are signs that he could be, if he applies himself and doesn't coast on his fame. Yes, I agree most of Harry's survivability is based on luck. He is just a kid.

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Do you want Rowling to write a sequel? I think that would be interesting. I'd give it a read.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Do you want Rowling to write a sequel? I think that would be interesting. I'd give it a read.

NO! NEVER! At least, if what she wrote in the [nonexistent] epilogue would be a clue. Nobody but Neville did anything but mate!

I would, however, be interested in a "Traveler's Guide," some sort of encyclopedia that has all the information about the wizarding world in one place. I went to her website quite a lot when she was writing the books, and every day was a "famous wizard's" birthday, and such. It's very clear that what we read was just a miniscule corner of her universe. I remember reading that Helga Hufflepuff had red hair and was reknowned for her good cooking and hospitality, and I had this theory that the Weasley's were descended from her - on Molly's side, perhaps, because basically the protestant work ethic applied to them. Well, sorta.

I read the books the first time for the story. And the following [many] times, for the atmosphere.

Originally posted by siriuswriter
I would, however, be interested in a "Traveler's Guide," some sort of encyclopedia that has all the information about the wizarding world in one place.

There was one in the works but Rowling legally blocked it.

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/article4710858.ece