Comic book battles

Originally posted by quanchi112
Come again. Hulk beat him, masterson beat him, etc. Thanos could let him hit him multiple times and it still wouldn't phase Thanos.

@Kurupt...

I was very serious.

Quan ole pal... are we really going through this again. It was pretty much explained by the writer why Gladiator lost that fight against Hulk but I'm not the one to make excuses so since I ALSO think Hulk would crush Thanos, I'm not mad at Glads losing that fight.

As for Masterson... well, he was basically getting his a** whipped that entire fight and Gladiator had him dead to rights TWICE in that fight but just decided to laugh at a high herald. Masterson sneaked attacked him twice in that fight and still got crushed. Hell, Glads hit Masterson with a single punch and had him dazed and almost out. He hit him the second time and had Masterson on the ground again, almost out of it.

Glads hits to hard...

Answer this question... there are trans level beings, skyfathers, abstracts, etc...

Why did Thanos choose Gladiator DNA for one of his clone vs all of the millions of other powerful beings in the galaxy/universe. Something to think about eh.

Please name me ANY character Glads has beaten that is one Thanos level ANY please. The simple fact is that he has ZERO wins against anybody in the Thanos ballpark, and in fact, anybody of significance he's faced.. he's gotten owned. He has ZERO chance to beat thanos, and really, Thanos would only need to pimp slap him once for the win.

Who's the strongest person Gladiator has dominated physically? Hyperion? Lulz.

Originally posted by carver9
@Kurupt...

I was very serious.

Quan ole pal... are we really going through this again. It was pretty much explained by the writer why Gladiator lost that fight against Hulk but I'm not the one to make excuses so since I ALSO think Hulk would crush Thanos, I'm not mad at Glads losing that fight.

As for Masterson... well, he was basically getting his a** whipped that entire fight and Gladiator had him dead to rights TWICE in that fight but just decided to laugh at a high herald. Masterson sneaked attacked him twice in that fight and still got crushed. Hell, Glads hit Masterson with a single punch and had him dazed and almost out. He hit him the second time and had Masterson on the ground again, almost out of it.

Glads hits to hard...

Answer this question... there are trans level beings, skyfathers, abstracts, etc...

Why did Thanos choose Gladiator DNA for one of his clone vs all of the millions of other powerful beings in the galaxy/universe. Something to think about eh.

Masterson survived his initial attack and glads barely survived the counter. Only you would say sneak attack it's all fair in love and war, amigo.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Who's the strongest person Gladiator has dominated physically? Hyperion? Lulz.

He dominated Masterson physically... he also one shotted blackbolt and was destroying Nova as well. He toyed with Quasar and Quasar was even shocked at Gladiators power. He one shotted Binary... he one shotted Vulcan, broke Hyperions neck... punched a Phoenix head clean off... one shotted Rachel... one shotted Thing along with taking out the FF(who truly does have high end showings of taking attacks from heralds). He also one shotted 2 centurians/Nova members and one of them was taking over for Rich.

All of these people are top tier so your lulz was basically pointless and ignoring the character feats.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You have nothing to base it off since Hulk has never done anything to Thanos other than being ordered around, slapped, or overpowered.

Masterson survived his initial attack and glads barely survived the counter. Only you would say sneak attack it's all fair in love and war, amigo.

Base what off from the Hulk?

Masterson got crushed and almost one shotted. Why would Masterson hit someone in the back that is standing above him laughing? Masteron even had doubts about facing Gladiator and that a** whippin he received was pretty much clarification of why he had doubts.

Originally posted by carver9
Base what off from the Hulk?

Masterson got crushed and almost one shotted. Why would Masterson hit someone in the back that is standing above him laughing? Masteron even had doubts about facing Gladiator and that a** whippin he received was pretty much clarification of why he had doubts.

Matserson won the fight despite his inexperience. Give masterson some experience and he beats Glads ass over and over again. Thanos takes on the real deal with the power gem and even he couldn't beat Thanos. YJGQ.

Originally posted by carver9
He dominated Masterson physically... he also one shotted blackbolt and was destroying Nova as well. He toyed with Quasar and Quasar was even shocked at Gladiators power. He one shotted Binary... he one shotted Vulcan, broke Hyperions neck... punched a Phoenix head clean off... one shotted Rachel... one shotted Thing along with taking out the FF(who truly does have high end showings of taking attacks from heralds). He also one shotted 2 centurians/Nova members and one of them was taking over for Rich.

All of these people are top tier so your lulz was basically pointless and ignoring the character feats.

Carver.. Carvy.... I love how you quoted everybody but me... I understnd why.. being that you can't name ONE person on Thanos level that he's beaten. However, no amount of top tier feats you name can ever get you around the fact that Glads has never beaten anybody on Thanos's level. Period. So you would agree that Glads has ZERO showings of him beating anybody on Thanos's level to indicate he could beat thanos.. it's just wishful thinking on your part right?

gladiator isnt really among the very elite high heralds in marvel either.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Carver.. Carvy.... I love how you quoted everybody but me... I understnd why.. being that you can't name ONE person on Thanos level that he's beaten. However, no amount of top tier feats you name can ever get you around the fact that Glads has never beaten anybody on Thanos's level. Period. So you would agree that Glads has ZERO showings of him beating anybody on Thanos's level to indicate he could beat thanos.. it's just wishful thinking on your part right?

Glads doesn't have many showings, especially against high tier beings of Thanos caliber but power wise and from what I have seen from his fist, Thanos will be hurting.

You never answered my question. Out of the trillions of beings in the universe INCLUDING the beings Thanos has faced, why did he choose Gladiator power to aid with his clone.

Originally posted by carver9
Glads doesn't have many showings, especially against high tier beings of Thanos caliber but power wise and from what I have seen from his fist, Thanos will be hurting.

You never answered my question. Out of the trillions of beings in the universe INCLUDING the beings Thanos has faced, why did he choose Gladiator power to aid with his clone.

Originally posted by 753
you think gladiator can beat thanos? straight up?

Nope... I'm referring to a fist fight.

well, he is much faster, but thanos is much tougher and effectively immortal...if glads doesnt wanna get hit and thanos cannot access any of his energy powers, he wouldnt be touched, but still wouldnt put thanos down

Originally posted by -Pr-
I could just see them Worf-effecting Diana to show how tough Gladiator is. In a straight up fight I could see him giving her trouble too.

They could, but anyone can be Worfed, especially early in a clash. Superman gets that often enough too, probably a lot more than WW.

Originally posted by Lord Feron

Wonder Woman vs Gladiator
Gladiator would win but I think they will have WW pulling every trick in the book but still losing. If glad does lose it would be some bs with the lasso.

Yea, BS like actually using her available options 😛

Ya got two people of similar power, so plotwise Diana's got a major edge.

Originally posted by carver9
Glads doesn't have many showings, especially against high tier beings of Thanos caliber but power wise and from what I have seen from his fist, Thanos will be hurting.

You never answered my question. Out of the trillions of beings in the universe INCLUDING the beings Thanos has faced, why did he choose Gladiator power to aid with his clone.

Again though, you kinda danced around the question again... So I'm correct is saying Glads has ZERO wins against ANYBODY on Thanos level or even close to his level as you admit right? Thus, it would also be a true statement.. that it's just wishful thinking on your part to think Glads could beat Thanos, when he's never beaten anybody at Thanos level or above?

Originally posted by CosmicComet
-I don't. She's a herald leveler. And a woman at that. It's politically correct to give her the win especially against someone who isn't remotely important like Gladiator.

-And it's not like Logan doesn't regularly face people above Batman or even himself either. When the popularity disparity is not huge--and it isn't here at all, the most realistic person to win in a comic is the one who realistically has the most advantages.

I'm not sure how you reckon Bruce winning leaves them both better off either.

(p.s. why did you call it a fact and then say imo?)

he's a herald leveller too. gender doesn't come in to it for me. plus, it's comics; they're not exactly a bastion of political correctness.

as far as the wolverine batman thing goes, this:

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yeah, in terms of writing a good story you can have Batman defeat Logan and they can still be friends/allies afterward. But if Logan beats Batman there's a good chance it will be for good thanks to the claws.

along with what PG said is pretty much what i'm talking about.

fact + imo = bad phrasing.

Originally posted by carver9
Why did Thanos choose Gladiator DNA for one of his clone vs all of the millions of other powerful beings in the galaxy/universe. Something to think about eh.

Thor/Hulk/Superman/Hank Pym wasn't available. Besides, a comment like that doesn't really hold up in a debate.

Originally posted by Q99
They could, but anyone can be Worfed, especially early in a clash. Superman gets that often enough too, probably a lot more than WW.

But Diana is the one fighting him. I can see Diana beating him too; that's just who i'd pick if i was writing the comic is all. if it was a group battle, then I might see things differently.

^I didn't mean being a herald level thing was unique to Diana and that Gladiator was not, I just mean that on that note they are on equal ground, so powerwise either could be given the win, and then combine that with the fact that she is an important woman character, and gladiator is a relatively unimportant male character, it makes more sense that she would be given the win as its more sensational to see the woman win than the dude.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
^I didn't mean being a herald level thing was unique to Diana and that Gladiator was not, I just mean that on that note they are on equal ground, so powerwise either could be given the win, and then combine that with the fact that she is an important woman character, and gladiator is a relatively unimportant male character, it makes more sense that she would be given the win as its more sensational to see the woman win than the dude.

Ah.

That's fine, and I can totally see why you'd go that route. It's just not how i'd write it, personally.

Pr buddy, you know Carver better than most having debated with him countless times. Does he usually say Glads wins a fight agianst a particular foe, when Glads has never beaten anybody on that level before. Is this a common practice of his? I just don't understand how he can say Glads can beat somebody at Thanos power level, when he's never beaten anybody at that level or above or really close to it.

This is how they'd most likely go:-

Thor vs Orion - Thor
HP Doomsday vs Hulk - Hulk
Spiderman vs Deathstroke - Spiderman
Superman vs Surfer - Superman
Wonder Woman vs Gladiator - Wonder Woman
Darkseid vs Thanos - Darkseid
Wolverine vs Batman - Batman
Deathstroke vs Captain America - Captain America
Superman vs Sentry (no void) - Superman

About Wonder Woman vs Glads - she's beaten a lot of guys tougher than Glads. She also has a win - of soughts - against Superman. In a comic she'd pull off a victory after a rough going.

EDIT: A lot of fights would be stalemates or reversed in the forums (Hulk vs HP DD or SS vs Supes come to mind, maybe even Glads vs WW ) but you have to factor character legacy as a factor in comic book outcomes.