"Time is the one thing the all-father cannot control." -- Odin runs the gauntlet

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Originally posted by carver9
That's why its not good to use classic feats... characters change so much that its ridiculous.
Time manipulation is not a classic feat.

Originally posted by carver9
That's why its not good to use classic feats... characters change so much that its ridiculous.

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King Thor stopped time.

Originally posted by illadelph12
The OP is a bit of a misnomer. The scan can be interpreted as an admission of his inability to manipulate time (which is refuted by on panel feats), or it can be interpreted as Odin warning his people of an imminent and impending doom about to befall them that he simply can't avert and wishes they had more time for them to prepare for, like someone saying "Time isn't on our side" when a disaster like a nuclear meltdown is underway and they are scrambling to prevent a complete failure, or the phrase 'time is of the essence".

I lean toward the latter rather than the former.

Decent point.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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King Thor stopped time.

Decent point.

Like I said there was a discussion between Barry and Wally about not going back in time to change things despite the fact that they could. Changing inevitable events usually ends badly.

Originally posted by illadelph12
The OP is a bit of a misnomer. The scan can be interpreted as an admission of his inability to manipulate time (which is refuted by on panel feats), or it can be interpreted as Odin warning his people of an imminent and impending doom about to befall them that he simply can't avert and wishes they had more time for them to prepare for, like someone saying "Time isn't on our side" when a disaster like a nuclear meltdown is underway and they are scrambling to prevent a complete failure, or the phrase 'time is of the essence".

I lean toward the latter rather than the former.

Agree
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If it is the former, he prolly can't affect the "time line" of someone as powerful as this so called serpent.

Originally posted by Uriel005
Like I said there was a discussion between Barry and Wally about not going back in time to change things despite the fact that they could. Changing inevitable events usually ends badly.

And that is why Thor's ability to travel back and forward in time was removed.From what I heard, Marvel HQ was always flooded by questions about "Why didn't Thor traveled back in time and do this and do that?!" Must be hard to answer all of those time traveling question all the time.Especially if its frequently asked.But I can't say the same for his time stopping ability if its gone or not.At one time, Dr.Doom stole Thor's hammer and hooked it up on a machine to stop time in Thor#410 I think.

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Originally posted by illadelph12
The OP is a bit of a misnomer.
Do you know the difference between "there's not much time" and the much simple, as direct as it gets, "Time is the one thing the all-father cannot control", as in speaking directly of the abilities and limitations he has?

so it's oficial now.
Odin cannot affect time.

I'm sure I have a scan somewhere with Superman not being able to outrace light.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Do you know the difference between "there's not much time" and the much simple, as direct as it gets, "Time is the one thing the all-father cannot control", as in speaking directly of the abilities and limitations he has?
Yeah and if tomorrow Flash was written as saying he can't go past light speed would you let that be used as evidence that he couldn't?

Didn't think so.

People, just accept Kang solos Odin and move on g_grin

Originally posted by Warlord
so it's oficial now.
Odin cannot affect time.
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Glad you agree.

Originally posted by Warlord
I'm sure I have a scan somewhere with Superman not being able to outrace light.
Sure, I can even post it for you if you'd like the only difference is that:

a).That is Byrne Superman
b).Superman had during and after that period, feats contradicting that statement.

On the other hand, currently Odin has been ressurected and is handled by Matt Fraction - the guy who wrote the scene, and is currently the writer of the two titles in which Odin appears the most - Thor and Fear Itself. When is the last time has has displayed time-stopping abilities? If he will display time-manipulation abilities then sure, I agree that he is still portrayed as having in his power to do so. But until then? I'm going to go with what the guy who, you know, writes him says.

It's no different than Green Lanterns and teleportation. Remember OneDumbGo arguing that they can no longer teleport becaue the current storylines specifically says displays that they need the Indigo Lanterns to do so? Eventough they have done so numerous times in the past.

It's exactly that. Only now it's on Marvel's side. 🙂

Meh. All this does is really create a distinction between 'current' Odin and 'classic' Odin, and doesn't change a thing about the arguments in the previous thread, just creates a separate discussion for what is essentially a separate character.

Theres not a big gap between current Odin and Classic Odin anyway. All this does is highlight how he currently has not control over time.

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Originally posted by Philosophía
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Glad you agree.

Sure, I can even post it for you if you'd like the only difference is that:

a).That is Byrne Superman
b).Superman had during and after that period, feats contradicting that statement.

On the other hand, currently Odin has been ressurected and is handled by Matt Fraction - the guy who wrote the scene, and is currently the writer of the two titles in which Odin appears the most - Thor and Fear Itself. When is the last time has has displayed time-stopping abilities? If he will display time-manipulation abilities then sure, I agree that he is still portrayed as having in his power to do so. But until then? I'm going to go with what the guy who, you know, writes him says.

It's no different than Green Lanterns and teleportation. Remember OneDumbGo arguing that they can no longer teleport becaue the current storylines specifically says displays that they need the Indigo Lanterns to do so? Eventough they have done so numerous times in the past.

It's exactly that. Only now it's on Marvel's side. 🙂

Lovely.

Fraction Odin it is…

and I take it you are in agreement with OneDumb then

The issue isn't even out yet. How about we all chill out until we have the context of the entire issue before making definitive statements about characters.

If Fraction really meant it as Odin not being able to manipulate time then I'm kind of ticked off. Mostly because it's just plain laziness on his part as well as his Editor's. It's another animal if his trying to tone down Odin but I'd wager it's mostly ignorance.

For the record, Odin reversed time like a few months ago.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If Fraction really meant it as Odin not being able to manipulate time then I'm kind of ticked off. Mostly because it's just plain laziness on his part as well as his Editor's. It's another animal if his trying to tone down Odin but I'd wager it's mostly ignorance.

For the record, Odin reversed time like a few months ago.

Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. It's a damn scan from a preview on cbr, so for all we know he could further elaborate on page 20. We'll find out next week.

Meh, I doubt it but who knows.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

For the record, Odin reversed time like a few months ago.

When did he do this?