Darth traya vs yoda

This thread is seriously fvcking retarded.

According to the KOTOR Campaign Guide, Traya was the one who trained Nihilus to take his drain to planetary-levels. And since Nihilus can destroy the Force/life/the fvcking universe with his mere presence, that's impressive. In addition, Traya said that there are techniques in the Force against which there is no defense and, as we all know, there are absolutely no advances in any facet of life in four thousand years.

Thus, logically, Yoda's fvcked up the 'a', and quite hard.

Yoda

Originally posted by RagingBoner
Thus, logically, Yoda's fvcked up the 'a', and quite hard.

Well, Traya is a female, thus she could not do that.
Yoda, on the other hand... is a player.

Green midget FTW. 😎

Originally posted by RagingBoner
This thread is seriously fvcking retarded.

According to the KOTOR Campaign Guide, Traya was the one who trained Nihilus to take his drain to planetary-levels. And since Nihilus can destroy the Force/life/the fvcking universe with his mere presence, that's impressive. In addition, Traya said that there are techniques in the Force against which there is no defense and, as we all know, there are absolutely [b]no advances in any facet of life in four thousand years.

Thus, logically, Yoda's fvcked up the 'a', and quite hard. [/B]

Bitter much?

DE, you have given in to the same supposition that all KOTOR fan bois have given into over the years.

No I haven't. You've given into the Kotor hatred that's infested this forum over the years.

Prove its the same drain, because I say it's not, based on... oh, it LOOKING completely different.

And we all know video games are the pinnacle of in-game/out-game continuity. Or even gameplay/cutscene continuity.

Electric Judgement. I posted the pics, you ignored them.

I must not have answered because of how stupid that point was. Electric Judgement? YOu know thats a variation on Force Lightning right? As in, in no way a draining technique at all?

When she didn't do... what Nihilus did... you know, kill a planet?

The technique is different only in terms of scale. There is still nothing indicating the attack can be blocked.

Also, as I've been not reading any of the arguments in this thread recently, I may have missed out on something, but... how was it established that Unseen, Unheard informed of us the Jedi's defense against a planet-wide Force attack?

It showed us that the populace had ample time to react to the attack. And Jedi reaction time >>>>>> normal humanoid. Unless the Jedi are functionally retarded, or so tonedeaf that they can't feel an entire planet dying around them, I'd say its 100% positive that they both noticed the attack and had time to defend themselves from it. Or at least as much time as Yoda has.

Traya doesn't even get a chance to use her attack. Yoda masks his presence in the force hiding him from the blind old coot. Traya is in two pieces seconds later.

Yoda ftw!

Edit: Or he rag dolls her with the force before she does anything. Either way.

Originally posted by Nephthys

And we all know video games are the pinnacle of in-game/out-game continuity. Or even gameplay/cutscene continuity.

So instead... we get to MAKE UP what happened, instead of what is happening on the screen? Player, please.

I must not have answered because of how stupid that point was. Electric Judgement? YOu know thats a variation on Force Lightning right? As in, in no way a draining technique at all?

QFT, I couldn't have put it better myself.

I'm unsure where you're going with this. Is it that Kreia did not use a draining technique? Because that would explain why when you click on their bodies it says they were utterly drained of the Force. Oh wait!

Originally posted by Nephthys
The technique is different only in terms of scale. There is still nothing indicating the attack can be blocked.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It showed us that the populace had ample time to react to the attack. And Jedi reaction time >>>>>> normal humanoid. Unless the Jedi are functionally retarded, or so tonedeaf that they can't feel an entire planet dying around them, I'd say its 100% positive that they both noticed the attack and had time to defend themselves from it. Or at least as much time as Yoda has.

I'd need to read Unseen, Unheard. It could be possible that what we see is simply from Visas's imagination.

Originally posted by RagingBoner
I'd need to read Unseen, Unheard. It [b]could be possible that what we see is simply from Visas's imagination. [/B]

Originally posted by RagingBoner
I'd need to read Unseen, Unheard. It [b]could be possible that what we see is simply from Visas's imagination. [/B]

Could be possible. Afterall, Visas doesn't really "see" reality.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm unsure where you're going with this. Is it that Kreia did not use a draining technique? Because that would explain why when you click on their bodies it says they were utterly drained of the Force. Oh wait!

wait... are you saying that dead bodies AREN'T usually drained of the force? I thought we just had a 10 page argument that if Nihilus killed every living thing, he could kill the force, but if dead bodies still totally have the force, then he has zero chance of killing the force. You can't have that both ways.

Dead bodies still exist inside the Force. The Force still binds and passes through them. Kreia and Nihilus' technique complete removes the person from the Force, causing a wound, an absence in it. Thats why the technique is so heinous, because it is literally killing the Force.

YouTube video

6.40

'This master is dead..... drained of life. His body is worse than lifeless, it's like an absence in the Force.'

Is that video that you've linked in the past the full comic? Because if it is, I must be missing something important in one of the panels. I can't zoom in on anything, so what exactly am I not seeing that indicates that the Jedi began preparing a defense using the specifically aimed at repulsing this Sith Drain? From what I see, the comic is pretty consistent with the game: Nihilus spoke, attacked, everyone died.

I never said they had specifically prepared a defence, I said they had time enough to react to the attack. Obviously they would attempt to defend themselves.

Could be possible. Afterall, Visas doesn't really "see" reality.

The narration is her perspective, the pictures however are not.

Originally posted by Nephthys

The narration is her perspective, the pictures however are not.

Ah, "her perspective". That is a good way of saying that Unseen, Unheard is not really a trustworthy source.

Only the narration is from her perspective. The accompanying pictures are blantantly not, showing images she is not witnissing. The source is reliable.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Only the narration is from her perspective. The accompanying pictures are blantantly not, showing images she is not witnissing. The source is reliable.

The narration being not trustworthy is more important than pictures being not trustworthy. Some images can be interpreted in too many different ways.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Only the narration is from her perspective. The accompanying pictures are blantantly not, showing images she is not witnissing. The source is reliable.

The fact that the images depict events/occurrences that Visas is not perceiving does not preclude the possibility that the images are simply depicting what she's imagining.

People tend to have conceptions of that which they haven't witnessed, experienced, or couldn't possibly know.

Now who's speculating?

Theres no evidence that the images are from her perspective and you know it.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Now who's speculating?

Theres no evidence that the images are from her perspective and you know it.

I have yet to see evidence that they aren't from her perspective.

Except from, y'know, not being from her perspective in the slightest.

super13

Also I don't have to prove they aren't from her perspective, you need to prove they are.