Who would give Thanos the toughest fight?

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Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman's durability alone was leaps and bounds ahead of everyone else during OWAW. The man was a tank once he got serious, something Hyppolita couldn't manage. He was blatantly shown to be the only Earth hero that could take on Imperiex's army and actually seem superior imo.

I honestly agree with galan. the gulf in power between his average and his all out is usually more expansive than that of any other herald.

but there are examples of the others outshining everyone else in their moments of glory too. he is a bigger star of course, but I still dont see how that sets him apart from the rest of his class in terms of high end feats, specially guys like like thor, SS, some GLs. if you mean he holds a greater portion of his power back as in the distance between his average and his high is greater than most heralds, maybe that is true, but his highest isn't in a class of its own and I would say the amount of time he spends holding back is not out of the ordinary for heroes in the herald class

Originally posted by 753
but there are examples of the others outshining everyone else in their moments of glory too. he is a bigger star of course, but I still dont see how that sets him apart from the rest of his class in terms of high end feats, specially guys like like thor, SS, some GLs. if you mean he holds a greater portion of his power back as in the distance between his average and his high is greater than most heralds, maybe that is true, but his highest isn't in a class of its own and I would say the amount of time he spends holding back is not out of the ordinary for heroes in the herald class

And i'd honestly disagree.

Superman Durability has also look like crap when compared with other heralds when taken as a whole. Even in DC. BA and Marvel have better overall durability showings when taking high and low compared to supes

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Superman Durability has also look like crap when compared with other heralds when taken as a whole. Even in DC. BA and Marvel have better overall durability showings when taking high and low compared to supes

That won't hold up under scrutiny I wager.

Unless you have red sun, magic, or Kryptonite, you aren't harming Superman unless you're asininely powerful (generally speaking.) Hell, even the aforementioned 'weaknesses' aren't nearly as effective as they used to be.

...And I can guarantee that Superman has FAR better durability showings than BA/Shazam.

their damage soak is better than his because of the nature of their bodies as magical constructs projected by their minds. their best regeneration feats are on par with the void's.

Originally posted by -Pr-
And i'd honestly disagree.
fine by me

Originally posted by 753
their damage soak is better than his because of the nature of their bodies as magical constructs projected by their minds. their best regeneration feats are on par with the void's.
Totally disagree.

Superman unquestionably has FAR better high-end durability feats then they do. Not saying they aren't usually portrayed as equals in that area, just talking about actual/on panel feats. Superman trumps them in that area.

Originally posted by Galan007
Totally disagree.

Superman unquestionably has FAR better high-end durability feats then they do. Not saying they aren't usually portrayed as equals in that area, just talking about actual/on panel feats. Superman trumps them in that area.

his hard durabilty perhaps, but their damage soak factoring in their healing factor is better IMO

Originally posted by Galan007
Totally disagree.

Superman unquestionably has FAR better high-end durability feats then they do. Not saying they aren't usually portrayed as equals in that area, just talking about actual/on panel feats. Superman trumps them in that area.

I'll say it again on a high end Superman there is very little that trumps him ever due to power granted by DC of I-win-you-lose-no-matter-what-in-the-end.

Originally posted by 753
his hard durabilty perhaps, but their damage soak factoring in their healing factor is better IMO

I'd wager that his damage soak is just as impressive (if not more-so, i mean, the guy practically invented the "you can keep pouring it on and i'll keep coming" thing) in certain circumstances. If they have an advantage with HF taken in, I don't think it would be that big a gap, personally.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Holding back is more routed in Superman's character than any other herald imo. In that tier, the closest runner up would be the Odinson. Of course, they aren't the only big names that have scenes where they cut loose and step it up, but those two have illustrated the biggest leaps in power imho. At least they have more of such scenes.

OWAW was clear. Superman > Heralds. It was his Blood and Thunder, World War etc. No real way debate that as it was made really obvious. Jeph Loeb wrote an unusually powerful and combat formidable Superman.

👆 Reminds me of the time Thor got pissed for becoming a "wuss" because he was hanging with humans for too long.

Originally posted by Galan007
Totally disagree.

Superman unquestionably has FAR better high-end durability feats then they do. Not saying they aren't usually portrayed as equals in that area, just talking about actual/on panel feats. Superman trumps them in that area.

My friend, you missed the part where I said.. they don't have as many LOW showings that superman does. Thus, when averaging them all out and them not having the low ones he has.. on average they would be better. Sure he has higher ones... and more of them.. but he also has more low showings as well.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
My friend, you missed the part where I said.. they don't have as many LOW showings that superman does. Thus, when averaging them all out and them not having the low ones he has.. on average they would be better. Sure he has higher ones... and more of them.. but he also has more low showings as well.

It isn't just a question of quantity. It's quality too. Even taking in to account his low ones, he's still arguably what Galan said.

Against piercing damage, I would give Supes the edge... overall blunt force, I would give it to Thor.

lol?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
@rotiart

I honestly do think Nimrod could replicate the "Drax Force" as that force is simply a field of enegy surrounding Drax that causes Thanos to lose control of structure when Drax comes too close to him...

Energy of course (regardless of the type) travels as a wavelength varing somewhere from very high to very low; after scanning Thanos, it should be trival for Nimrod to pin down the exact frequency that makes Thanos weak...

Prove this statement. Drax has not been shown to have a "Thanos neutralizing" power... He was made to be incredibly powerful to neutralize Thanos. Seriously I submit all this talk about a "drax force" is a farce.

Originally posted by kgkg
lol?
Originally posted by rotiart
Prove this statement. Drax has not been shown to have a "Thanos neutralizing" power... He was made to be incredibly powerful to neutralize Thanos. Seriously I submit all this talk about a "drax force" is a farce.

the drax farce?

Originally posted by kgkg
lol?

When you have Thor tanking hits from a pissed Celestial on more than one occasion... taking hits from Mangog, the destroyer, surviving an initial attack from a being that has consumed 10000 gods, taking hits from Ego (in the past), tanking hits from a pissed Odin... Galactus, it comes to question if there are many if any Heralds that are durable than him.

No Herald to my knowledge have any feats resembling this. NONE. There are some things that I'm not even including.

No Herald imo is above Thor.