Havoc vs Starfire

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Havoc vs Starfire

Who wins?

hmm, this is a close one. havoc can erect some solid forcefields. for that reason i might lean slightly his way.

Gotta say it's an even fight.. Starfire's air superiority kinda even it all up..

Not sure what he can do if she just soaks him up.

Originally posted by Konton
Not sure what he can do if she just soaks him up.

couldn't he do the same?

Starfire has it every other way. Strength, flight, fighting ability, and so on. I'll take her.

Not even close Starfire outclasses Havoc in every way therefore she wins

Flight is the only power he is outclassed, dough havok can fly he just hasn't displayed maneuverability = to that of SF. Thought his base level strength is well below hers, his ability to amp those attributes kinda even it up same goes with durability, he can amp those to apoint where he can shrug off punches from high meta bricks; incredible hulk, strong guy, mimic etc etc.. without the use of force field..

I said even because havok is far superior to that of SF when it comes to direct energy absorption, infact quite a lot better advantage than flying as SF mostly means of attack is energy discharge..

yeah, she blasts him with cosmic/stellar energy and he could pretty easily absorb all of it. she can do the same. i suppose it would come down to who can absorb the best of each other. what's sf's best absorption feat? anyone? and ambient--what do you think havoc's is? i know of that scene where he absorbed all that star energy when fighting.... vulcan was it? anything better iyo?

Yeah! Got to agree with Leo there, the winner depends on the versatility of they're skills in energy manipulation.. I'm not to familiar with some of SF high end energy absorb/manipulation but as for Havok some of his more impressive energy manip. Feat where of course the star absorption feat after he fell in that stargate sat., then there's that complete draining of Hodinn; a planet wrecker and a supposed sentient star, reverting hulk to banner, using gamma rad to amp while simultaneously fighting the incredible hulk, amping using sunlight while fighting both x-men and Exiles, etc..etc

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until someone posts similar feats for sf, i'll stick with havoc....

Starfire.

Starfire is more of a brawler anyways she's a 100+tonner his blasts will have little effect on her with a combo of her durability and energy absorbtion she pounds his face in

This isn't going to be an energy fight and Starfire doesn't use cosmic energy so I'm not sure what Leo is on about.

With common knowledge of each other in play, I'll bet Kory just punches him for the win. He's going to have a shitty time absorbing enough to energy to amp his own strength or erect a barrier when she was sapping Zod's army by her lonesome. Even with an absorption battle in play, she can still break a tie by taking it to him physically.

Originally posted by Konton
This isn't going to be an energy fight and Starfire doesn't use cosmic energy so I'm not sure what Leo is on about.

huh? she absorbs stellar energy to fly and can project it thanks to the psions. stellar/cosmic..... same thing to havoc.

With common knowledge of each other in play, I'll bet Kory just punches him for the win. He's going to have a shitty time absorbing enough to energy to amp his own strength or erect a barrier when she was sapping Zod's army by her lonesome. Even with an absorption battle in play, she can still break a tie by taking it to him physically.

nah. he can amp quickly and doesn't need amping to erect a force field. and nor will he be just standing there while she flies up to punch him. she'd be getting blasted. heavily. she could try brute force but the range attacks would prevent it from happening easily.

i dont think hell amp quick enough. starfire is pretty fast and strong.

She's quite a bit faster than him and he's not one shotting her before she gets to him. Sure, he amps occasionally, but it's not a normal tactic. She's a decent fighter, too. I think it'll be a physical fight more than anything.

On top of that, Havok beating Vulcan was the result of a plot device. Every time he beats him, there's a star in the vicinity.I doubt they would be fighting by a Star for him to amp himself high enough to those powerlevels to contend with Starfire physically that quickly
Starfire wins

Originally posted by YoungGunna
Starfire is more of a brawler anyways she's a 100+tonner his blasts will have little effect on her with a combo of her durability and energy absorbtion she pounds his face in

Your totally overating SF durability here, she's fallin to a lot lesser energy discharge than what Havok blast can do; ie. one shotted by an energy blast from Deathstroke, as well as Cyborgs blaster, etc..etc.. So to say Havok blast having little effect pretty much tell you know nothing about the Char.
Originally posted by Konton
This isn't going to be an energy fight and Starfire doesn't use cosmic energy so I'm not sure what Leo is on about.

With common knowledge of each other in play, I'll bet Kory just punches him for the win. He's going to have a shitty time absorbing enough to energy to amp his own strength or erect a barrier when she was sapping Zod's army by her lonesome. Even with an absorption battle in play, she can still break a tie by taking it to him physically.


??? Her body constantly absorb cosmic energy to fuel her incredible power, ala solar to Superman..

And guess what? Havok can directly absorb those energies from her bodies, just like what he did to Hulk..

As to how fast can he do this? Almost instatneously and this is against a sentient star race..

As for SF strength? Havok omni-directional shield should do the trick..

Can he energy manipulate while the shield is up? Sure he can..

Can he tank a 100 tonner punch without shield? sure he can and might i add that is the savage Hulk in there..

So what im trying to point out is, Havok's overall energy manipulation protect him from the physical beatdown that you guys like to point out and dish some punishment via my way, using her own energy as source..

Originally posted by YoungGunna
On top of that, Havok beating Vulcan was the result of a plot device. Every time he beats him, there's a star in the vicinity.I doubt they would be fighting by a Star for him to amp himself high enough to those powerlevels to contend with Starfire physically that quickly
Starfire wins

That is what is required to beat Havok which happens to be a freakin star and guess what starfire herself is a miniature star, not literally but a kin..

Win.. Win..

Originally posted by Ambient
Your totally overating SF durability here, she's fallin to a lot lesser energy discharge than what Havok blast can do; ie. one shotted by an energy blast from Deathstroke, as well as Cyborgs blaster, etc..etc.. So to say Havok blast having little effect pretty much tell you know nothing about the Char.

??? Her body constantly absorb cosmic energy to fuel her incredible power, ala solar to Superman..

And guess what Havok can directly absorb those energies from her bodies, just like what he did to Hulk..

As to how fast can he do this? Almost instatneously and this is against a sentient star race..

As for SF strength? Havok omni-directional shield should do the trick..

Can he energy manipulate while the shield is up? Sure he can..

Can he tank a 100 tonner punch without shield? sure he can and might i add that is the savage Hulk in there..

So what im trying to point out is, Havok's overall energy manipulation protect him from the physical beatdown that you guys like to point out and dish some punishment via my way, using her own energy as source..

That is what is required to beat Havok which happens to be a freakin star and guess what starfire herself is a miniature star, not literally but a kin..


Your using ABC logic just because he can absorb energy from Hulk has nothing to do with her two different powersets two different universes. When angered, Starfire can go into a berserker state, granting her even greater strength, invulnerability, and immunity to many forms of damage.So I doubt his energy would would effect her and I don't see him matching up physically with her.That same omi directional attack you say Havok can do she can do also.The Hulk fight is irrelevant the Vulcan fight would fit better for this fight because they were two energy manipulators.The Vulcan fight had a Plot device so if this doesn't Starfire could easily Speed blitz him or simply BFR him